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[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 110 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wut? Was he talking about the previous Ukrainian government, sponsored by Russia™? I can't make sense of what he is saying, actually.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 74 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I had to reread it a few times myself, but I'm pretty sure that's what he's talkin about

Because everyone knows Russia is well known for their totally legit free and fair elections/s

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

i got a veteran friend who would not take kindly to people saying her country should be permanently tied to a country whose name she refuses to spell correctly. the .ml tankists have, apparently, no concept of a false flag operation

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Dude doesn't know about Euromaidan. I wish some of these children would go to russia.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

They like the idea of Russia, not actual Russia.

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[–] mlfh@lemmy.sdf.org 96 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yogthos is the kind of piece of shit that "critically supports" bombing Ukrainian kindergartens and maternity wards as long as, somewhere in the world, at least one Western tear is shed over it. Blocking them makes the fediverse far less unpleasant.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 weeks ago

One of the best decisions I've made

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wonder why that user account is above the rules of the instance and its communities. The modlog is full of examples which should apply to their behavior as well

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

They're a mod of several .ml communities. Just like every communist dictatorship, laws and rules don't matter when it's the one in charge breaking them.

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[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 77 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I dont get how tankies can support a "communist" nation like China that has an investor class and whose system requires the mistreatment of the proletariat.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 50 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Because they don't support communism. They just like one version of ogliarchy better than the other.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

They're authoritarians not communists ie. the ole schtick.

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[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 weeks ago

Don't worry, someone will be along shortly to recommend 2000 pages of communist literature that wouldn't even prove their point even if you read it all.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At least China goes through the motions of being Communist. They also somehow support 21st century Russia which is just openly an authoritarian oligarchy.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

My 'favorite' is when they defend clerical fascism in Iran as some kind of fantastic anti-capitalist development,

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[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 24 points 2 weeks ago

"Because they'll eventually take away their wealth or kill them" is an argument I've actually seen on .ml. I'm not against the sentiment of getting rid of the capitalists but cmon, when someone says China isn't socialist and points at a clearly capitalist behavior you can't be "it's still socialist because the capitalist thing will be fixed in the future". Then every country might as well be socialist, we'll just fix capitalism at some later date.

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[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 57 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Huh. And here I thought Yogthos was a Chinese plant. Turns out they like the taste of Russian leather just the same.

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[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 weeks ago

Average Yogthos verbal vomit.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 49 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Ah yes, the famously communist Russian Federation. The RF is nakedly an imperial fascist regime that doesn't even have communist window dressing, it boggles the mind that self-proclaimed communists and anti-imperialists support them.

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It almost feels like posting yogthos is cheating

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yogthos drank the vatnik koolaid.

[–] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee 20 points 2 weeks ago

The best part is that he is a very well paid software engineer living in ThE WeSt.

Couldn't be more of a hypocrite if he fuckin' tried.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yogthos is either a fully paid professional propagandist or a highly skilled amateur. Probably the latter.

I'd call him(?) the single worst person of lemmy for the reason that every time he speaks of things that have nothing to do with politics, he seems like an absolutely cool dude. I remember even that in the first weeks of Russia's aggression on Ukraine, he was being kinda somber and realistic about it. But then The Message somehow reached him and he started spouting Russia's propaganda at full blast. He's clearly intelligent and literate while doing this, which is just doubly sad.

In him, Communism has completely ruined a perfectly good person, and it's a tragedy every time it happens.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Oh that guy. He spends all day on Lenny pushing pro-Russia and pro-Chinese propaganda. It’s probably his job. I’ve asked him to hook me up with extra work, but no leads yet.

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[–] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lmao, it's yogthos. Canada's most notorious freedom fighter lmao.

/s.

That dip couldn't find the freedom he is "fighting" for if Marx drew him a map with directions.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 25 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, the reason he's so happy about everything Russia does is that he's a software engineer with over a decade of experience living in Canada, he's living the cozy life and literally never going back to Russia because he's way too soft for that at this point.

That particular post also got me banned from the community. I said something to the tune that I'll agree with the state department on China, North Korea and Russia/Ukraine, but disagree on Cuba and Israel/Palestine, which probably makes me more of a leftist than all those dictator simping tankies. Someone did not like me pointing that out.

You ever point out to those people that Russia and China are very much NOT communist countries nowadays and people only simp for them because it's opposition to American global hegemony... Yeah you'll just get banned. I've been banned from .ml memes AND hexbear memes communities by now.

[–] spacecadet@lemm.ee 34 points 2 weeks ago

Yogthos is always here to provide the shittiest of takes and the most phallical of fallacies.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 32 points 2 weeks ago

Yogthos is a clown

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 25 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

For those who like me can't read the original meme text:

"Leftists" whose political opinions on China, DPR Korea, Cuba, Israel, and Ukraine mirror the U.S. State Department's position

And then the face the person is seeing in the mirror is a clown.

I wouldn't have even tried to engage on the China / N Korea / Ukraine side of the analogy. The other one is a lot more absurd. I don't think there is any non-trivial number of "leftists" on Lemmy who think that Israel "has a right to defend herself" and deserves tons of weapons, or that Cuba is a terrorist state.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Israel “has a right to defend herself”

It does but what it does far exceeds legitimate defence. And what it does also isn't building Zionism because antagonising people goes directly against the goal of creating a place for Jews to live in peace and prosperity.

I gave up on it when the fucker killed Rabin and it's been a constant slide into full-on fascism since then, as in, fascist modes of thinking captured more and more of Israeli politics to the point where even the left is largely cooked. They may disavow what Amir did but they still share his outlook towards "security". They may not be actively genocidal but still support "antagonise until Palestinians give up". The situation is fucked in pretty much every way that a situation can possibly be fucked.

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 24 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

I honestly can't tell if these .ml guys in these discussions are trolling or just spouting retarded nonsense and calling everyone a Nazi for the sake of it

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Hey, no judgement, but we're trying to cut down use of the r-term around here, as a courtesy to those who it's been used to unfairly hurt. Just for future reference.

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[–] nevaseerius@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Lmaooo these dingos think Kim jong un will holler at them if they suck his e-weiner enough

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