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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Tim cook, a gay man, donated a million to trump. Don't let Apple pretend they aren't playing both sides.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago

I reckon they have to at this point. Pay your dues and get to keep your business.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Really? Damn

[–] parrhesia@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But Costco loves us, right?

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

Your uniqueness will be added to our membership.

Resistance is in aisle 6

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They also operate a lot of sweatshops.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A sweatshop is where people, namely children and the elderly, work for wages that could not even afford food and water or possibly even no wages at all. In many cases the people are not allowed to leave. Noteworthy past examples include Nike Sweatshops in east asia including Pakistan, Indonesia, and India.

Similarly, Apple runs Sweatshops in India, and in December of 2020 a riot broke out where the unpaid workers trashed the facility that assembles iPhones.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You were referencing Costco. Cite examples of alleged Costco sweatshops please.

And since you're introducing the Apple example, cite that specifically please. Interested to learn more of India and Apple

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

No, neither me nor the comment above mine said Costco. It was explicitly apple.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

They were probably set off by the loose usage of the word "similarly".

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

DAMNIT! MAKING ME AGREE WITH APPLE.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] amon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

for paying orange man who wants to get rid of DEI

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Right, what a lil bitch like the other rich cunts

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I figured Apple was because they’ve been silent. Shoutout to Apple

[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Tim Cook has made it a point to kiss the ring privately on his own while keeping apple neutral so that money keeps flowing in.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 119 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Tim Cook is really playing both sides of the fence here.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 105 points 3 days ago

The real fence is capital vs labor, and he doesn’t play both sides of that one

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I mean, he did give a generous "personal donation" to the Trump inauguration.

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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Wonder how this is going to affect unemployment. One of the effects people don’t talk about with these programs is that appearance guidelines get rolled back also. All these people with face tattoos and piercings will also suffer from these rollbacks.

[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

apple is so good for having a diverse group of slaves to build their phones

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 62 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Well they don't love you.

They can tout DEI and idpol all they want. They're still stiffing union workers.

Companies are not things to love.

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't doubt that all companies push back against unions. They force the company to pay more. The only thing I have to say regarding Costco is that it usually pays its employees a much better wage than most stores.

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[–] HoMaster@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

Yes they do. I saw it in a documentary. “Welcome to Costco, I love you.”

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[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 20 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Apple may be a terrible company, but their pride logo looks so good

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They've had a rainbow logo for a long time.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

And personally, I hope they’ll bring it back. Along with the colorful plastic era. These days it’s all boring aluminium, but Apple used to enjoy actual colourful designs. I love the G3 iMac so much, I’ve got a framed poster of it. Can you imagine how cool an iPhone or tablet would be in these colorful plastic designs?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Making it transparent might encourage pesky users to consider replacing a part.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The annoying thing is… they used to let you do just that! On the G3 iBook you could just lift up the keyboard and replace the RAM and AirPort card. And i’ve been fistdeep in my G3 easter egg to replace the AirPort card.

As a longtime Apple fan, it’s annoying to see what we’ve lost.

[–] Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I loved that design as a kid and was so upset on the next release. Having fun colored desktops in elementary school then getting the flat chrome design going into middle school made me slightly sad tbh. I did hate the G3 mouse though.

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[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

These were the coolest.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

A terrible company, but some of the best marketing

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[–] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago

There is a good chance they will also ditch DEI when it start to cut into their monies more.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Can someone smarter than me (I know, it’s a low bar) explain how DEI is unconstitutional? Especially when it comes to private enterprises like Apple and Costco?

Edit: okay, I found a decent article that lays it out. While I agree with the basic premise, I know its effect won’t be more equality.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 63 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

My understanding is it's basically pulling the uno reverse card to suggest it's anti-white behaviour.

"I got passed over for a promotion cause they needed another minority manager instead of a white one" type stuff

I'm not American so no idea what your constitution says.

[–] CitricBase@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

DEI is basically "you know that thing we do where we only hire from the old boys club at our favorite ivy league university? Let's hold off on that."

Companies benefit from DEI policies because they expand their hiring pool, so the company ends up with better talent. They're still aiming to hire the best out of that pool, of course. Companies are motivated by profit, not by reparations.

I know its effect won’t be more equality.

Its effect will be more equality. Unfortunately that is not a good thing for the old boys club, which is what motivates the FUD and disinformation you've heard regarding DEI as a buzzword.

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[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (47 children)

the whole DEI inititive generally is to get people who historically underprivileged more positions at work. this however in a few instances, would lead to someone being hired because of their race, rather than skillset. Theres ongoing anti sentiment who fully believe that anything with DEI has made a company gone downhill (with basically 0 evidence, or very anecdotal evidence proving so)

Constitutionally, some claim it to be unconstitutional because of the 14th amendment that states:

“No state shall...deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

as the idea of affirmative action, or DEI programs bascially give minorities a higher chance of being hired, therefore the idea is that people were not equally protected under law.

basically programs typically put Whites (and Asians in some contexts, tech jobs and universities) at a disadvantage.

personally, i think most of it is hubabaloo, and most companies know(or should know) the minimum requirement they are looking for out of an employee since most of them already want the cheapest person in the building regardless of race. I just think the argument that they wont hire the best person suited for the job a fallacy, as if they were THAT good, then they would never get passed up to fill some racial quota. No one is going around for example passing up on Jim Keller (cpu architecture guru) over a minority designer who has little experience. for the jobs that require the best, a company will look for it regardless.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

lol I am sure as soon as DEI practices are removed everyone will only get hired based on their skillset.and not their "club memberships". what a bunch of dickwads, as if people don't know what you are trying to achieve.

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