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Summary

Several U.S. states have enacted laws requiring pornography sites, such as PornHub, to implement age verification to prevent minors' access, prompting the site’s parent company, Aylo, to block access in affected states.

Proponents argue these laws protect children, while critics highlight privacy risks, inefficiencies, and potential censorship.

These measures reflect growing social conservatism, with some advocates aiming to restrict adult content broadly.

While privacy-focused age verification methods exist, regulatory clarity is lacking.

Critics warn these laws may suppress responsible platforms, favoring unregulated alternatives, and escalate broader culture wars around sexuality and LGBTQ+ rights.

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[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There's no reliable way to verify age without extensive face verification with liveliness checks. A child can easily upload a parent's or some other adult's id card photo to get 'verified'. Also nothing stops kids to explore porn corners of social media (including lemmy) and thousands of porn sites operated not by the Big Porn. Porn is fundamental to internet.

Edit: I purposefully omitted vpn, that being the most trivial solution.

That's all besides the point however.

If a young kid is motivated by highschool seniors to watch porn, it is s parenting issue. If some adult encourages some child to watch porn as a grooming technique that's a much more serious case of child abuse. If a teenager is porn addict and doesn't do anything else, it is a major mental health concern, not a porn concern itself.

It is kind of accepted fact that many late teenagers are familiar with porn and explore it like any other sexual aspects of their life. Whether that's harmful is upto debate but teenagers/adults do many things harmful everyday and banning everything with law isn't realistic either. It is not end of the world if a teenager has sex or watches a porn movie. Children have greater dangers in general where they get abused by their relatives, teachers and even by their own parents and are continuously attempted to be programmed not to critically think by the religions.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think they mean the other way around....

"That is because all those states have passed laws requiring porn websites to verify that their users are under-18"

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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I’m curious what this graph looks like compared to states with legal weed.

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[–] HeroHelck@lemm.ee 180 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's a classic tactic, use a somewhat legitimate concern (Minors having access to pornography). And blow it far out of proportion, and use it as an excuse to crackdown on what you're really after. You will see people defending these bans because the "reasoning" they're being presented SEEMS rational, but unwittingly they're supporting a mass crackdown on their own rights.

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 101 points 1 week ago (1 children)

See also: The constant push by governments to take away our right to private (encrypted) communications.

ItS tO prOteCT the CHILDRen's comMUNIcaTIoN.

yeah no for sure and that's why we should all install spyware onto our phones. there's no "switch in the settings" to turn it off. (for a recent example, see the EU commission's newest proposals.)

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

somewhat legitimate concern (Minors having access to pornography).

Counterpoint: accessing pornography is part of growing up.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

There's A LOT of unhealthy porn, especially for kids. Especially for kids with no sex education. It's also easier for them to get addicted.

You could also say alcohol is part of growing up, because for many it is.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

There’s A LOT of unhealthy porn, especially for kids. Especially for kids with no sex education.

Which is why comprehensive sex ed is so important.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, but the people banning porn are also banning sex Ed, so definitely seems more about control/abuse of power than concern for kids.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

An oppressed and suppressed population is easier to control

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[–] natecox@programming.dev 154 points 1 week ago (18 children)

With this method, users take a photo of their face which is then analyzed by AI to estimate their age. Tombs says this involves no analysis of the user’s actual identity, and that all photos are deleted once the check is finished. Hence, neither Yoti nor the porn site ever needs to know who you are.

No. Fuck no. Just… wow.

[–] DurbanPoison@feddit.nl 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I rate they're intending to keep those photos, but will stop when an exec with a little bit of humanity has a change of heart after checking the database when he realises he is looking into the eyes of a unkempt man with visible depression who is going to spend the next 15 minutes trying to settle on a video and another two minutes masturbating.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago

when an exec with a little bit of humanity has a change of heart

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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 week ago (4 children)

While privacy-focused age verification methods exist

verification methods may 'exist', but there are exactly zero which can guarantee security and privacy.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The are absolutely ways to have a 100% anonymous and private age verification. None of the parties here are interested in implementing them though.

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[–] SS2k_2003@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Fascists view sexuality as a threat to their movements.

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