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[–] Godort@lemm.ee 162 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm not worried about this specific apocalypse, if only because there is literally nothing that can be done to prevent it nor stop it if it starts.

I'm far more worried about more localized, preventable, human-caused apocalypse like climate or nuclear war.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, we won't see it coming and won't feel it happen. As far as deaths go, it's about as easy as it gets.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

on the bonus side takes Trump, Elon, Nigel and Tate with it.

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[–] Tower@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago

Exactly. Same energy as worrying about Earth being hit by a gamma ray burst - 🤷‍♂️

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I would be very glad if it was something only destructive to humans, and not the planet(s ecosystems).

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 0 points 6 days ago

Not all humans are bad and destructive, nor is the collective human race universally destructive. We have saved species from extinction and made great strides to protect ecosystems. Don't damn the lot of us for the crimes of the worst of us.

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[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Wikipedia:

"threat

If our universe is in a false vacuum state rather than a true vacuum state, then the decay from the less stable false vacuum to the more stable true vacuum (called false vacuum decay) could have dramatic consequences.[5][6] The effects could range from complete cessation of existing fundamental forces, elementary particles and structures comprising them, to subtle change in some cosmological parameters, mostly depending on the potential difference between true and false vacuum. Some false vacuum decay scenarios are compatible with the survival of structures like galaxies, stars,[7][8] and even biological life,[9] while others involve the full destruction of baryonic matter[10] or even immediate gravitational collapse of the universe.[11] In this more extreme case, the likelihood of a "bubble" forming is very low (i.e. false vacuum decay may be impossible).[12] "

Also, of course there's a Kurzesagt

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Does this mean the laws of physics could just... Change?

Hoping for the scenario that means FTL travel is possible and nothing else changes lol

[–] Masta_Chief@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Irl physics patch is crazy

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yup. though if the laws of physics change then that also means the laws of physics holding your atoms together are gonna be blended up into a soup at the very least

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

Unless they change into a set of physical laws in which magic is real, and the turtle of enormous girth holds us all together in his mind!

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[–] 8000gnat@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago

maybe you couldn't survive it but I'm built different

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm going to file this under the category of philosophy similar to "what if we're living in a simulation?" and "parallel universe" theory. As far as I'm aware we have no evidence that there's even such thing as a false vacuum, so this is all just speculation based on some theories.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, if you need existential dread, a gamma-ray burst could end us in an instant too and they're confirmed to exist and much more likely.

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[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Well, that sucks.

[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

"We like to destroy the universe at least every couple of months."

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 73 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How you know the Wikipedia article is good

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 61 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Subatomically dispersed at the speed of light is probably the best way to go. And no one would be left to mourn you.

[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

♫♪♫ And we will all go together when we go ♫♪♫

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Beam be everywhere, Scotty!

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Luckily, this is the epitome of that Epicurus quote:

Why should I fear death? If I am, then death is not. If Death is, then I am not. Why should I fear that which can only exist when I do not?

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not the death I'm worried about. I just don't want to suffer leading up to it or put my family through some long drawn out ordeal watching me die.

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well good news, false vacuum decay would kill everyone on Earth instantly with no warning

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then I'm not worried about it.

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same here. Like, that would obviously suck, but 🤷

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean sure, it'd suck, but no one would be around to think it sucks, so it'd be fine 😎👆👉👆👉

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

How to remove all suffering. Utilitarians hate this simple trick!

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You know how when you get put under for anaesthesia, and you don't notice the time you were gone? It's like a cut in the tape of life.

What if death is like that, and BAM your consciousness re-emerges billions of years in the future the moment you die.

But your consciousness is alone. And in pitch black nothingness. Forever.

[–] Famko@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Entropy would end up taking your consciousness as well, so I doubt you'd be there, 14.3 billions years later, forever.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We don't really know what consciousness is, so we can't really be sure that it is subject to entropy.

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[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is what I think happens. You don't experience death, you just reemerge on the other side, no matter how long it takes.

The chances of your brain being created were infinitely small before you were born, but it still only took 14 billion years for it to happen.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Well, maybe it's because we mostly fear the WAY towards death, not the end of being a thing that is. Unless we get hit by a moving train...

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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If our particular bubble of the universe has remained unmolested for 13.8 billion years, it is safe to assume it will continue to be for the next 1000 years.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Also it's not like assuming it will collapse in the next decade will make any difference other than having a harder time enjoying the time before then.

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Gamma Ray Burst

Sleep tight

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd much prefer death by a solar system wide tsunami of highly energetic particles then the slow, agonizing death march we're currently doing.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 5 points 1 week ago

I was gonna say it might be worse if you're on the opposite side of the planet that gets hit but I'll give you that one.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Never trust a gamma ray burst

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 23 points 1 week ago

I believe that it is possible that false vacuum decay has already begun, but so far away that it might not ever reach us.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Every day, when I see or hear someone driving a gas vehicle. So like, all the time.

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[–] kunegis@mander.xyz 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Obligatory mention of the novel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schild%27s_Ladder](Schild's Ladder) by Greg Egan.

Such a scenario would be interesting indeed.

[–] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

His books are always at least a little mind-bending

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

He is exceptional at writing hard sci-fi that unnerves you.

I'm moderately certain, whichever future timeline we move to, there will be aspects of Egan's works.

Modern day Jules Verne, recommended to read at least one book of his.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago
[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago

Metastable equilibria.

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