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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Who's to say you can't get conscripted out of prison to die in the climate wars?

[–] ODGreen@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Russia already is doing this!

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

They're so ahead of the times!

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago

Surrender and/or nade the commissar tent?

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's only so many CEOs and billionaires

[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

And they're stuck in here with us

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

When you take away people's reason to live, their time, their hobbies, their ability to raise a family, their loved ones, you make those people very desperate...

...you might not end up glad that you did.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 1 month ago

very apt quote.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

"The most dangerous man is the man with nothing to lose"

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

This is the way

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Who would win?

2700 soft nerds with at least one billion small pieces of paper each

VS

300 million chimps with access to the internet and Mountain Dew™

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

I'm all jacked up on mountain dew

[–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What I didn't see coming was mountain dew becoming the drink of the ppl

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No, don't throw the younger generations under the bus to clean up our messes.

If nothing else we are ride or die with them.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Just get a vasectomy so your children won't be wage slaves. EZ

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately you won't die with us, you'll die much sooner, not choking on a lack of oxygen or dying of dehydration.

We need more elders like those in Japan who volunteered to clean up nuclear waste because they wouldn't have to live with the long-term side effects of being exposed to radiation.

As elders, y'all wouldn't have to live as long in jail ¯\(ツ)

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

3 squares a day and lots of admiration vs unlimited access to distraction-ary cat pics

[–] Snailpope@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I did electrical work at a state prison in Nebraska a couple times. Most of the inmates had tablets with semi restricted internet access. So they still get the cat pics

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Some prisons let you have a kitty

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

For me American prison sounds a lot worse than whatever comes from climate change, so personally I'd pick that.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

For now. Give it a few decades when the effects of climate change start forcing people out of their homes, cause widespread crop failure, kill thousands with heatwaves and storms, etc.

If you're choice is between

  1. losing your home, starving to death, or in some way dying in the streets

Or

  1. losing your home, starving to death, or in some way dying in the streets after holding those responsible to account a la the adjuster

More and more people will choose option 2.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I mean even thinking that that'd be the actual situation for me where I live in few decades vs. spending those few decades and rest of my life in American prison, it's going to be a very easy decision for me

I mean, come on. Uncertain future some decades ago vs the certainty that I'm rotting in an American prison for the rest of my life starting now. Easiest decision of my life

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It very well could be the rest of your life in both cases.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes and that still gives me some decades before something might happen vs spending those decades and the rest of my life in American prison. I mean have you really considered the options here lol

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think you've misunderstood. I'm talking about the choice that people make when these effects start happening, not a choice now. Of course most people aren't opting to get violent yet, there backs aren't yet against the wall.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In that case I wouldn't worry about either choice if it's decades away. I'd wait and see how bad it gets before making the decision.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Sure. But my whole point is that we're headed in that direction.

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[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

jail is not fun. no computer.

[–] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Which country has both abusive crony-capitalist billionaire CEOs and fun jail?

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hey maybe someone will spend life in prison for disposing a president ele... better not finish typing that one out

[–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Two people have tried, so far.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Intentional heroin overdose

[–] Damionsipher@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why not both? I have a strong suspicion the climate wars are going also be a class wars. Although, if the common folk won't, getting jailed for war crimes against the rich may never be prosecuted 🤷‍♂️

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Aren't all wars?

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And as always, GenX just forgotten.

[–] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Not forgotten, too many of you guys are sellouts. They'll die in the climate wars so they're covered.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

General strike in the US seems like less of an impossibility year by year

Just restating some of the greatest hits:

  1. Universal healthcare

  2. Universal education through university level or trade school

  3. At least a month pto annually

  4. Parental leave for births

  5. Guaranteed sick leave

  6. 32hr new full time threshold before overtime

  7. Only public, equal funds for elections, no PACs/dark money/donations, no lobbyist bribes

  8. Any elected official over a certain level cannot engage in trading of individual stocks or own businesses, dump it all in an index fund or hand off management to someone else they cannot contact without a mediator and recording, immediate expulsion & no longer able to hold office when found in violation

  9. No billionaires/oligarchs, anyone with earnings and assets over a billion should be taxed at 100% and assets redistributed

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nothing about replacing First-past-the-post voting?

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Campaign finance reform under 7 would allow further reforms to follow, without those regulatory capture and bribery are legal and prevent any other electoral reforms benefiting the working class.

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[–] innermeerkat@jlai.lu 0 points 1 month ago

General strike in the US sounds more like a civil war

[–] Melody@lemmy.one 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

@ #9; Whoa there. 100% is unreasonable. Still there's room to start at a hard 90% at about 250 million and then incrementally scale until the tax is say, about 95-97% by about a billion.

Unfortunately you cannot tax anyone 100%; that would ultimately be unfair and demotivating and only motivate corruption to avoid the tax

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

demotivating

that's the motherfucking point, bootlicker.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's progressive. You're still allowed to have a billion. That's just a cap. Anything past that goes to the public.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

With the suicide rate as high as it is, I’m honestly shocked more people don’t try to take these scumbags with them.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Or be like me and try to do such a deed then realize your bad aim in video games carry over IRL, then you get shot dead by their security and go to some purgatory with this moment replayed forever, reminding you how much of a failure you were.

The only reason I don't want to try is because if I miss, its gonna be so embarassing, I don't even wanna thinkg about it.

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

pretty sure this applies to Xers to.

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