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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 306 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Ok.

> uses search engine

> search engine gives generative AI answer

God dammit

> scroll down

> click search result

> AI Generated article

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 86 points 1 month ago (1 children)

> search engine gives generative AI answer

> It cites it source, so can't be that bad right?

> click link to source

> It's an AI generated article

Oh no.

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 month ago (4 children)

AI will give the correct, real source and then still make shit up. Bing linked to bulbapedia to tell me wailord was the heaviest Pokemon. Bulbapedia knows it isn't close, bingpt doesn't know shit.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The uncertainty has gripped the world in fear. I go to hug my wife for comfort. She is ~~cake~~Gen AI.

[–] yo_scottie_oh@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] DerFuehrersFarce@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Why don't you love me Jen AI?

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don’t be ridiculous. It’s more like Google search result you click is an ad rather than an organic search result, and that ad… is an ad that’s ai generated… god damnit

[–] ech@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Maybe go to more than 2 places for your information? I agree that this shit is also an issue with news and other media, but it's not that hard to find more substantial information on things. At least not yet.

And I can't remember the exact process off hand, but there's still a way to get search results without that garbage on google. I'll edit if I can find it.


*Found it. So, at least for Firefox, you can add a custom search engine through the settings. For the url, input https://www.google.com/search?q=%25s&udm=14 and then set it as your default se if you want. As far as I can tell, it's a simplified version of the main search, just without the "helpful" add-ons. Hope it helps some people.

**For some reason Lemmy is adding a '25' between the % and s. Those numbers shouldn't be there, just fyi.

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[–] Lightsong@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Dont forget sponsored results crammed in between.

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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 69 points 1 month ago (10 children)

The Internet was a great resource for sharing and pooling human knowledge.

Now generative AI has come along to dilute knowledge in a great sea of excrement. Humans have to hunt through the shit to find knowledge.

[–] GaiusBaltar@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

To be fair, humans were already diluting it in a great sea of excrement, the robots just came to take our job and do it even faster and better.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

"How to make a pie"

Here's how to make a pie:

Gather ingredients:

  • Flour
  • Eggs
  • Water
  • 10 pounds of dog shit
  • 10 gallons of cat urine

Cooking Process:

  • Step 1: Mix all ingredients and place in a pan
  • Step 2: Add Gasoline
  • Step 3: Bake at 9000° Celsius for 12 hours
  • Step 4: ???
  • Step 5: Profit?
[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Google training their AI on reddit was stupid as fuck.

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[–] Olap@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't forget to glue it all together at the end. Real chefs use epoxy

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, no, you are supposed to eat the glue.

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[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just made that pie, it was delicious.

Can confirm, perfect 5/7.

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[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 month ago

Where was all this coming from? Well, I don’t know what Stern or Esquire’s source was. But I know Navarro-Cardenas’, because she had a follow-up message for critics: “Take it up with Chat GPT.”

The absolute gall of this woman to blame her own negligence and incompetence on a tool she grossly misused.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And when the search engines shove it in your faces and try to make it so we HAVE to use it for searches to justify their stupid expenses?

[–] ech@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Use something else.

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Just scroll past it? I just assume it's going to be wrong anyway.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is why Melon and the AI chud brigade are so obsessed with having a chatbot (sorry, “AI”) that always agrees with them: a stupid number of people think LLMs are search engines, or worse, search engines but better, some diviner of truth.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

Information is not truth. A do or die slogan for the 21st century.

[–] rdsm@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Oka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago (20 children)

I ask GPT for random junk all the time. If it's important, I'll double-check the results. I take any response with a grain of salt, though.

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[–] vhstape@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In general I agree with the sentiment of the article, but I think the broader issue is media literacy. When the Internet came about, people had similar reservations about the quality of information, and most of us learned in school how to find quality information online.

LLMs are a tool, and people need to learn how to use them correctly and responsibly. I’ve been using Perplexity.AI as a search engine for a while now, and I think they’re taking the right approach. It employs LLMs at different stages to parse your query, perform web searches on your behalf, and summarize findings. It provides in-text citations as well, which is an opportunity for a media-literate person to confirm the validity of anything important.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok but may I point you to the reality that internet spread misinformation is a critically bad problem at the moment

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Biggest reason I stopped using Google

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Obvious problem is obvious.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

garbage in, garbage out.

[–] Kaelygon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Google search results are often completely unrelated so it's not any better. If the thing I'm looking for is obscure, AI often finds some thread that I can follow, but I always double check that information.
Know your tool limits, after hundreds of prompts I've learned pretty well when the AI is spitting bullshit answers. Real people on the internet can be just as wrong and biased, so it's best to find multiple independent sources

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[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 10 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Who else is going to aggregate those recipes for me without having to scroll past ads a personal blog bs?

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

When search engines stop being shit, I will.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Eh....I got it to find a product that met the specs I was looking for on Amazon when no other search worked. It's certainly a last resort but it worked. Idk why whenever I'm looking to buy anything lately somehow the only criteria I care about are never documented properly...

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (12 children)
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[–] Jocker@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Okay, but what else to do with it?

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