this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2024
168 points (90.4% liked)

Ask Lemmy

26980 readers
1245 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions

Please don't post about US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Trump has stated he will cut American aid to Ukraine, which makes a majority of total aid. Recently Zelensky stated that if Ukraine's only hope for sovereignty is its own nuclear arsenal, they will build it.

(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

Who's going to supply them with uranium and parts? The French? lol

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Even if they have the ability to build one, and do so without Russia turning the facility where they're building it into rubble with hypersonic missiles, they would need dozens to have full MAD type protection.

Does Ukraine even have a missile system capable of carrying that kind of payload as far as Moscow?

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe not anymore, but they had a few orbital rockets:

They definitely had the talent to do so, but realistically they couldn't build one today :(

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

I know nothing about the subject but doesn't it require a massive infrastructure investment and time that Ukraine can't afford right now? I mean even Zaporizhzhia is controlled by the invaders, though I'm not sure if it's there where they would produce fissile materials. Furthermore, Ukraine's remaining allies are staunch anti-nuclear proliferation.

[–] Oaksey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

If they get used it is obviously really going to be a bad time for all but one thing in their favour is that the prevailing wind goes from west to east.

[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Every country should have the freedom to build their own nukes while we are at it.

The only country who dared used their bombs, and twice, is the US, and did it while there was no need for it. so I don't see how some countries are taking the moral high ground about who should and shouldn't have nukes, it is mostly about about who should and should impose their imperialism with the help of nukes.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

dumb ideas that could end the world.

Imagine if your neighbor 20 miles away decided they were going to build the world's largest nuclear warhead.

They're doing it in their home. It doesn't impact you, right?

[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

why should some have nukes and others not?

Were they given divine mandate ? are they superior human beings ? explain !!

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

No. Nuclear weapons should not exist.

Kurzgesagt recently made a video on the nuclear arms race. The end of the race was when the guy who invented the hydrogen bomb invented a bomb that could destroy the entire planet. The bomb wouldn't even need to be dropped onto your enemy. It could be built inside your own country and detonated any time at all to end humanity. He thought of it as the biggest deterrent to war. Nobody else did. Politicians and military leaders threw out the idea entirely. Why would anyone detonate a nuclear bomb inside their own country??

The size of that bomb pales in comparison to the size of all nuclear weapons in existence today. We built that bomb. It's just not one giant bomb, but split into 12,000 parts and spread over the world. Is it any different? If you cannot justify building a nuclear weapon that would destroy your own country to destroy another, how can you justify building any nuclear weapons at all?

That video taught me that Project Sundial should have gone ahead.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think they have much of a choice at this point. And yes, I'd support it. They clearly should've never agreed to the Budapest Memorandum with its half hearted security guarantees.

load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›