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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Surprised it's not higher. I would have thought more than 2% of people on Steam were using Steam Deck.

[–] visor841@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Steam is a massive worldwide market, and the Steam Deck isn't offered everywhere. Chinese users for example have to import it, so not many are used there.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

thought more than 2%

What confuses me is a survey earlier this year was 2.32%, so why the actual regression?

I'd have expected it to go up with more time to sell steam decks and whatnot, not regress by 15%.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

It goes up and down as people accept to fill the survey or don't

[–] Solemarc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I could swear it was higher earlier this year/last year but looking at the survey results, Linux climbed to 2% this survey. I think maybe that half remembered headline was something like "Linux is higher than MacOS at 1.5% market share" or something like that instead?

[–] hangonasecond@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think the 2% figure includes the steam deck, but I might be wrong

[–] Macros@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

It does include it. The article list it in detail: 36.79% of the Linux users use the steam deck. And the number is falling, which means there are more users also using Linux on desktop PC (or other gaming handhelds)

But that may also just be statistical noise.

[–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Well maybe Linux most likely to hit ~7% global OS market share and total 5%+ Steam Survey user share next 10 years (its just prediction)

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Over 15% marketshare in India

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

thats amazing, why is that?

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Dunno. I don't live there.

[–] KITA@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Keep dreaming. Not that I hope Linux doesn't do well. But I can't imagine it'll continue to grow into the future.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I hope it languishes around 3-4% at most, if it does get 7%-10% enshitification inevitably ensues and it will grow more and get worse

[–] rbits@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

If that happens, you can just switch to another distro. That's the point of Linux

[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'd be more than happy to sacrifice a distro I don't care about like Ubuntu to the mainstream if it means Microsoft's market cap gets a sizeable chunk taken out of it.

[–] Ugurcan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Deck sold well but there are billions of Steam users.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

~35 million concurrent active users.

[–] CMahaff@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I got the hardware survey on my Windows PC, but not on my Steamdeck. So I wonder if there is only 1 survey per user, and most people don't use a steamdeck exclusively?

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I got asked about the survey on both my desktop and Steam Deck.

[–] CMahaff@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Curious did you get the survey popup in desktop mode on the deck? Or does it work in "big picture"?

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

It was in desktop mode, so maybe that makes a difference.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

Converted one of my gaming PC SSDs to a Linux disk. and I'm so amazed how well it just works with proton.

When a have some time I'm going to fully convert it to Linux, with a small Windows VM for the 1-2 tools I sometimes need

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I gave Linux another shot this past month. It was a lot better than I remembered, but still not good enough, basically in the reliability areas. I wish the experience was “it all just works” like so many have said.

I may not mind giving it another try when Windows Recall goes live.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like you're willing to forgive a mountain of bullshit for windows but nothing for a non corporate os

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Priority one is having a working computer. Priority two is evading future spyware.

Priority three is using an OS where seeking support for issues doesn’t produce the reply “Sounds like you fucked something up, idiot, because it works perfectly for me!”

[–] Daveyborn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I've received that reply too many times and can understand why it turns people away. I got lucky and eventually got someone more willing to actually help and been dual booting since.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't call you an idiot. I just implied you're looking for reasons to avoid change. Which sounds doubly true after this comment.

[–] Jeffool@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'd love to make the move, but there's a one-two punch of: I play Warzone with family. I think anti-cheat there is only going to get worse. Second? I already get caught with the fiddly bits of errors on Windows sometimes and spend too long searching for answers. Any time I see that on Linux it looks like I'd need years more of active learning new problem solving to reach my current level of comfort.

I'm at that "is it worth planting the apple tree now that I didn't plant 20 years ago?" thinking.

[–] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

I got rid of my dual boot arch/windows, and installed single boot draugerOS this week end.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

How do I take the survey? I never seem to get the popup.

[–] Dlolor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Random users are asked each month. If you get chosen you'll get a popup in the Steam client asking if you'd like to participate.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Weird that it'd be random when they could just ask every user. Would give a more accurate breakdown on certain categories.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

That might bias the results towards gaming cafes and people building test machines. Cases where an account is used but a single snapshot doesn't necessarily reflect what they normally use or that would capture the same machine multiple times.

[–] TunaLobster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yep! And it's per account. Both of my Linux machines are in this months data!

[–] yikerman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think Steam automatically uploads your hardware and software spec

[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

(Only certain users, and only if you consent)

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, so a blue username normally means OP, a green one means mod. What the heck is a red username?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Instance admin.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, that was me. I installed it on my desktop Linux computer the other day.

You're welcome.

[–] DimFisher@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Seriously i hope it stays like that, i don't want to bother with viruses in the future

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

...security by obscurity? Guess when Linux finally explodes in popularity, you'll see me over on FreeBSD instead

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In what way does "security by obscurity" apply here?

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

fewer consumer targeting Linux viruses because smol usr base

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I see. That's not what "security by obscurity" means in my world, but the expression certainly sounds like it could. It's not like I own the meaning of words, so it's interesting to hear what it means to others. Could also have been meant figuratively, I suppose.

I meant it in the sense of using an obscure operating system to be less likely to be targeted by a threat actor.

Or to be more general, using obscure software for increased security, over actually correctly configuring and using secure software.

Viruses already exist for Linux and have for a long time. They are less prevalent than Windows but this obviously shouldn't be the primary defense strategy for your device.

[–] Buttflapper@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Still no anti cheat support