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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 104 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Feel like a good sponge costume would allow you to pee right where you are.

[–] MrShankles@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I got the "Robert Sponge Rectangle Slacks" version from Spirit Halloween... but it doesn't hold water when pissing myself :(

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Should probably come with a warning about that. Pretty disappointing.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 82 points 3 weeks ago

I guess it depends on what kind of sponge, but I think in all likelihood since most sponges have no symmetry that this comes down to the same politics as an agender person choosing a bathroom.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 54 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Flounders are not bilaterally symmetrical.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 95 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

YOU'RE NOT BILATERALLY SYMMETRICAL

[–] BalooWasWahoo@links.hackliberty.org 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He can't understand you, dude.

Hey,

Flounder!

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cal!

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a little hard to pick up, but it's all about one rule: Everything has to be on one side of the page.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, thanks, I really don't speak flounder too well. Really should learn considering how close to Norway I live

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

In the tree of life, flounders are a sub-sub-...-sub-species of bilaterally symmetrical animals: https://www.onezoom.org/life/@Holozoa=5246131?otthome=%40_ozid%3D1&highlight=path%3A%40Apionichthys_finis%3D3640785&highlight=path%3A%40Bilateria%3D117569#x2913,y-2310,w8.2796

Edit: let me preemptively be a pedant to myself and say that "sub-...-species" is wrong because "bilaterally symmetrical animals" is not a species. Flounder is itself a species AFAIK, not a sub-species of anything. It is a descendant of the common ancestor of all bilaterally symmetrical animals. There, now surely no one will find anything to be pedantic about :D

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I appreciate that information. However, flounders themselves are not bilaterally symmetrical. I have caught many dozens of them and it's pretty easy to tell that they are not.

[–] austinfloyd@ttrpg.network 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Flounders are born symmetrical; eye migration happens as they transition to the juvenile stage of growth.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Isn't it referring to during development? Like as they're forming, they are bilateral? I haven't taken developmental biology in many years, so I'm maybe wrong.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They are born (or hatch too lazy to look up) and their eyes move later once they get larger.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah. I just wasn't sure at what point things are considered to be bilateral or otherwise.

I thought it may have been during the development process, but can't remember.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They're only bilateral when they're very young. And even then, everyone is just focusing on the eyes. The body of the fish is also not exactly bilateral. Just fillet a flounder of any age (or watch a video on it) and you'll see.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry, I'm talking about like when the fish first starts developing. Like how the initial cells orient themselves. I just have to look up what the definition actually is.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, I know. It's very interesting. But when people imagine a flounder, they generally don't imagine a juvenile unless juvenile has been specified.

[–] azi@mander.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago

Just like starfish!

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

Forego the illusion of species and families. It's taxa all the way down.

[–] Morphit@feddit.uk 18 points 3 weeks ago

It depends on whether it was a larvae or not.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago

They're "differently symmetrical."

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 3 weeks ago
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Pretty sure from my B- in zoo that sponges eat from what amounts to our waste hole.

So you are supposed to piss in the punchbowl and drink from the toilette.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They are a single orifice kind of animal. Take a gulp of sea water, sift oit the goodies, and expel the rest

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah. ok. See what kind of biological insight a B- gets you?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago

Toilette du fromage.

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What if you take off the costume? Humans aren't entirely bilaterally symmetrical (at least not on the inside) and obviously not radially symmetrical so the paradox continues.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Is any animal perfectly bilaterally symmetrical?

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] MrShankles@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Their mom definitely got it... Slam! with the alley-oop!

[–] Chiarottide@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Might be, but she gives it to everyone else

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago
[–] jack@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

Humans are definitely bilaterally symmetrical. Symmetry doesn't have to be a perfect mirror image in biology.

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 3 weeks ago

What about phylum neutral bathrooms?

[–] azi@mander.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

Echinoderms:

[–] harl3k1n@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

TIL sponges don't do punctuation.