Huh, so Russia finally killed a real nazi...
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I am hearing that it was Prigozhin.
(ABC News YouTube)
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Hopefully both. He'll make a video if alive.
Utkin was not a nazi, that's western propaganda. The photo circulating with SS insignia is a bad fake.
What a crazy coincidence
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Wagner Group commander Dmitry Utkin was on the plane with Yevgeny Prigozhin that crashed north of Moscow, the Russian civil aviation authority has said.
Civil aviation authority Rosaviatsia published the names of seven passengers, including Wagner boss Prigozhin and Utkin, along with three crew members it said had been on board.
Utkin - a former Russian soldier reportedly adorned with Nazi tattoos - has been described as Prigozhin's right-hand man and played a key role in the founding of the Wagner Group.
The 53-year-old has also been accused of involvement in numerous war crimes, including in Homs, Syria, where he reportedly gave the order to beat a deserter to death and demanded the act be filmed.
The rebellion ended when Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko stepped in to broker a deal - which saw Prigozhin agreeing to relocate to neighbouring Belarus.
In the aftermath, Andrei Gurulev, a retired general and politician, said Prigozhin and Utkin deserved "a bullet in the head" for their role in the attempted rebellion.
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Will they now use this as an excuse to unleash the angry and leaderless Wagner on Poland? Will they just become part of the army? How would that even work?
Poland would make quick work of Wagner. They have not fucked around in making their army one of the best in Europe in combined arms warfare. They’ve also updated their most of their materiel to Western gear (or are producing their own that is equal to Western gear) that we now know is dramatically superior to the old Soviet//Russian gear. They’ve been in on practically every peacekeeping mission across the world for the last 25 years, seasoning their officers with combat experience. They are far more competent than Wagner, to put it briefly.
Yeah, Wagner is huge, but that is also a problem. They have or had a few thousand good soldiers in their core, but the bulk of their fast growing forces are subpar. And Prigozhin for what that rat is worth, actually had an idea of combat and raised morale by being at the front. If Russia puts some scared bureacrat or office career military officer in charge the whole lot will fall apart.
What do you mean? Wagner made minced meat out of best Ukraininan brigades in Bahmut. They would do the same to polish army. 🍖
What a crazy """""accident"""""!
So weird that the wing just fell off like that.
One could say is was a crazy coincidence they happened to fly right into the missile that just happened to be passing through.
The leader of wagner was probably also killed
Russia's aviation agency has confirmed Yevgeny Prigozhin, his deputy Dmitry Utkin and his head of security, Valery Chekalov, were on board the Embraer jet that crashed just north of Moscow.
Why where all three on the same flight? I've worked for companies that wouldn't allow 3 execs on the same flight and these guys were essentially trained...
Maybe part of their deal with Russia. They all get to fake their deaths and get away scott free and Russia gets to "retaliate" against the mutineers.