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[–] wolf@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

Yes, Apple! :-) Obviously Apple doesn't have the win margins to put proper parts in their hardware...

Just yesterday I realized my Thinkpad Edge 330 is running w/o any trouble for 11 years now, cost me little above 300€, brand new back then. :-)

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most durable modern Apple's hardwares:

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think their Vision Pro will be the product with least reported defects. However, that’s because its only job is to hold down paper on a desk.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I read that the outside glass breaks by itself when used as a paperweight https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/23/apple-vision-pro-front-glass-cracked-reports/

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just bought myself a late 2011 17" MacBook Pro, it was listed as untested but I took the gamble... Yeah, its logic board turned out to be dead.

I bought far older ThinkPads for less money that worked perfectly.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I would be extremely skeptical of buying something listed as untested. How hard is it to test if a Mac works you just turn it on if it doesn't turn on it's broken. It takes like 30 seconds.

However if you turn it on and it's broken but you don't want to sell it for parts you can always just sell it as "untested".

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I guess not everyone has Magsafe 1 adapters lying around...

[–] CucumberFetish@lemm.ee 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Imo untested always means dead. Especially when it is something easy to test - like a laptop

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes, probably should have seen that coming to be fair. Especially since the A1297s are so prone to failure.

It's just that confirmed working ones are still so goddamn expensive and I kinda wanted to have one but not enough to drop 200€ on it

[–] CucumberFetish@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Rule of thumb when buying electronics (or anything for that matter) is buy it cheap, buy it twice.

Nervously looks at the 10€/TB refurbished drives that just arrived

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[–] JASN_DE@lemmy.world 154 points 2 days ago (1 children)

about two years

How convenient.

[–] ceiphas@lemmy.world 98 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's exactly the time, where they are legally required to fix that in the EU

[–] JASN_DE@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

I know, that's why it always catches my eye when there's "2 years" in there somewhere.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 100 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Pathetically weak flex cable and connector. Obvious problem and design weakness that's persisted for years.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It would be a relief if that was the problem. Even if Apple won’t issue a recall, third-party cables can be made and sold for a reasonable price by places like iFixIt.

If the display itself is defective, then this is going to be real bad for a lot of people unless Apple bites the bullet.

[–] M600@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Look at the 2016 MacBook Pro.

They had a problem with the display cable and it can’t be easily replaced since it’s soldered to the display.

You basically just need to get an entirely new display even though it’s just the cable.

Additionally, some shops will resolder the cable, but it’s not a long term solution.

Even replacing the display by Apple is not a long term solution because they replace it with another display that has a cable that’s slightly too short and will eventually break again.

So the only real solution is to buy a new computer.

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[–] r_deckard@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Happened in 2022 to a 2017 MBP belonging to someone I knew. She went out and bought a new one, and put the old one in a drawer. She brought it to me in 2023, I investigated and found the shitshow - Apple saying "nuh-uh", the ACCC (Australian consumer advocate) saying "you'd better", then Apple quoting me $1100 because the ACCC never enforced it, and me getting it fixed locally for $550. It needed a new screen, not because the screen itself was faulty, but because the failing flex cable was integrated with the screen. Screw Apple.

Same with my mbp 2019. Failed on me earlier this year, every works fine except a $0.10 flex cable that they decided to solder inside the panel so it can't be changed.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Apple builds obsolescence into their products on purpose.

If you'd bought a PC, a faulty screen would be easily replaceable. I had to replace my laptop screen myself several years ago, and with a $60 part and ten minutes on youtube, it was an easy repair.

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not really anymore. They make them expensive to repair, but they also don't want you to switch to another brand, because for them a user in the ecosystem purchasing apps and subscriptions is worth way more than a frustrated user purchasing a one time display replacement. Their whole strategy now (for a few years really) is to make devices that last at minimum 5 years, because it makes the user happy that their 5yo phone still works, and that means they are likely to get another iPhone, and because as long as the user is in the ecosystem, they are making money by taking their cut of everything that happens on the device

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

So we rely on expensive things hard to fix with controllable lifespan.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 20 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I still use a 2011 MacBook Pro. It’s running Linux Mint now and hasn’t been my primary laptop for a couple of years now, but it’s still a solid machine. In fact, as is the norm with Apple stuff, it lost OS support long before it stopped being a viable laptop.

Fortunately, Opencore Legacy Patcher exists…

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[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That will be 450$ and you'll have to send your device in for 3 weeks. -Apple Genius

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oddly enough, the reason why I did the repair myself was that the shop quoted me $400, haha. It's nice to live in a world where you can fix your own stuff, something that Apple also does their best to prevent.

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[–] benjhm@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 days ago (58 children)

Hmm. I'm still using a 2014 iMac, as its 27" 5k screen still very good for coding (with added memory). Sometimes develops a bunch of thin vertical lines, which come and go maybe dependent on temperature, but hasn't changed for for ten years and i can live with those. Just wish they'd continue providing security updates for it.

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