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There used to be a Kbin instance called feddit.online, which was shut down. @Jerry@hear-me.social just announced on Mastodon, that he brought feddit.online back to life, this time using PieFed. PieFed is a pretty neat alternative to Lemmy and Kbin/Mbin, created by @rimu@piefed.social and of course it's fully free and open source on Codeberg: https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi
It has some cool features like “Topics”, which are basically groups of multiple communities that you can view all at once (similar to these Lemmy feature requests: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3071 https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1113).

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[–] MxRemy@piefed.social 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I migrated to the flagship PieFed instance a while ago and haven't regretted it at all. This place rocks! I would love it if there was an app though, not a big fan of PWAs lol. If I was smarter, I'd try to make one myself. Very exciting to see more instances popping up!

[–] rimu@piefed.social 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 12 hours ago

Thank you for your work!

[–] hitstun@fedia.io 4 points 12 hours ago

Whoa... !FloatingIsFun@fedia.io looks really good in PieFed's tile views! It's kind of what I was going for with my CSS. I think PieFed has a ton of potential, and I want to mess around with it more.

@Jerry@hear-me.social, if you just saw a spike of like 1GB of data getting federated in, that was me manually retrieving my first few hundred posts.

Edit: Oops, I tagged the wrong instance admin named Jerry!

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 24 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Great news!

Edit : sad to see the first comment being really negative

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago

I'm not really sure why they say that, looking at it the UI looks pretty sleek

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 10 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

That's great!!

I love PieFed - hopefully this instance will be a success! It's nice to see something other than the flagship. PieFed seems pretty flexible, so it'll be fun to see what another instance makes of it.

I would warmly recommend checking it out!
(That's https://feddit.online and https://piefed.social)

[–] cacheson@piefed.social 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Good to see another public PieFed instance. Any idea if this one allows subscribing to NSFW communities? They're entirely blocked by piefed.social, unfortunately.

Nothing against @rimu (or any other individual admin) for not wanting to deal with having NSFW content cached on his server, but I find the collective prudishness of the threadiverse disheartening. I think it hinders our growth, and fosters a worse culture overall. It's kind of ironic that Reddit, for all it's other flaws, is more sex-positive than the threadiverse is.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

There's plenty of NSFW content on lemmysnfw.com, I can understand why someone would block NSFW instances for their project flagship instance

[–] cacheson@piefed.social 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

It's not that I want the threadiverse to deliver porn to me. I'm capable of finding that myself. It's that I like sex-positive culture and think it's a good thing for humanity overall.

As I noted, my complaint isn't about any specific instance admin. Individually, no one should be required to host or cache anything that they don't want to. However, the overall trend of blocking NSFW communities is still concerning, and we should advocate for admins to not do that where feasible.

The design decision to hide NSFW communities from logged-out users also plays a part here. Community discovery is bad enough as it is, and this makes it even worse. Last I checked, lemmynsfw was having to maintain their own patch to fix it, and keep updating it as new lemmy versions are released. Kbin and PieFed also copied this behavior, and I assume Mbin inherited it.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 57 minutes ago

If this is so important to you, you are still very much free to start your own instance and see how far it goes.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

This is good news that the instance is back up again. But as an Outsiders pov, I'm going to be super hesitant on wanting to interact with the instance since it's already proven to be shut down once.

Being said, I love to see people monopolizing on better technology that have more feature sets, and honestly it looks pretty dang cool

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It seems it shut down over Kbin developments. I guess it could have done its users a favour by changing to Mbin, but still... Fair enough. I'm hopeful :)

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Jerry also operates fedia.io, which runs Mbin

[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That's a different Jerry! (Jerry Bell)

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 12 hours ago

Aaah, I got confused!

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io -2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Definitely not for me. The UI looks worse than Lemmy, which I already can't get behind.

[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 8 points 14 hours ago

PieFed has some design principles, including being accessible on lower-end devices and for those with unreliable bandwidth, which mean that it's default UI is never going to look like apps which involve downloading a sizable chunk of Typescript.

I'm okay with its look. Partly because it's themeable, and there's a theme called 'Card Shadow' which looks more modern imo. And partly because Lemmy can feel quite slow showing 20 posts at a time, whereas PieFed throws 100 at a time. And also because there will eventually be an API, allowing people to view it how they want (similar to Lemmy - lemmy-ui is maybe not that great, but there's other frontends which I think are an improvement)