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[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 5 points 1 hour ago

Ad revenue is like Crack to corporations. Once they get a taste for it, it's all downhill from there.

Mostly because it's the easiest money they'll ever make and it's more profitable than subscription models. Gotta see those numbers go up at all costs.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 46 points 8 hours ago

Advertising needs to become as socially acceptable as smoking.

It indiscriminately pollutes whatever environment it’s conducted within, and causes secondary harm to non-participants by incentivising hoarding of PII in the cheapest and least secure manner.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I have legit never bought a single thing because I saw and ad for said product. I don’t know who is out here making these campaigns so profitable

[–] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

Here's a really horrifying fact about ads, they don't expect you to go right out and buy their product. Ads target your subconscious and manipulate your way of thinking. There was a study done by some university and tested by a few people across different fields of study that proved this to be correct. I wish I could remember off the top of my head where this was published. If you do a little browsing you can probably find it and you should because you can't trust a stranger like me to properly relay the information.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Brand awareness gets you subconsciously

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I don't know, I distrust all YouTube ads content creators slide into their videos, because the products are either useless to me, disappointing in real life like the "fruit smells" rings for water bottles or sketchy with some fear mongering like the VPNs.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

I dunno, I don't just ignore ads, I find them repulsive, like my scam-alarms go off even when I know that it's probably a legit product. Seriously unless I get a recommendation from an actual person, the brand I've never heard of feels safer to me then the brand I saw a cheap ad for on some janky website. Maybe it's because so much of the stuff I had growing up was knockoff/store brand, so I've hardly ever actually experienced anything that I saw an ad for.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 41 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

ublock origin. I don't care if some website dies. Whole internet is turning to shit anyways, just let it all burn

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago

Ublock does such a good job at blocking the old janky torrent sites, especially compared to the increasingly aggressive and intrusive new shit.

[–] patrick@lemmy.bestiver.se -2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That just makes sense though? The legit sites have to pay for, fund, or in some way support the content which does cost money. The piracy sites obviously don’t have that cost so they don’t need as much income.

The piracy sites also pay a lot less in infra, since they rely on the user to store, seed to others, and serve the content to the local users. All that infra is offloaded to the user.

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Sorry, what exactly kind of content are we talking about? You know, the one "legit" sites have to pay for but piracy sites don't.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 3 points 2 hours ago

Fun fact: a lot of the content you see on big sites are advertorials, this means some company writes a fluff piece about how their lastest product can solve all your problems, and then pays the site to publish it. In print, you even have the option to have the ad use the same layout, fonts, colors etc. as the real content.

This means a portion of a site is not filled by content that had to be bought, but actually brings them money.

[–] patrick@lemmy.bestiver.se 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Do you think that Amazon gets its content (movies on Prime video) for free? Or do you think that piracy sites pay for their content (stolen movies on torrent sites)?

Edit: To answer you more directly, YouTube pays creators a cut of the ad revenue, and Amazon/Netflix pay the movie/show creators through licensing deals.

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 1 points 1 hour ago

That's some ground-level hanging fruits - do you know any piracy websites the size of Amazon or Netflix? Sure as hell I do not.

Piracy websites are usually pretty limited in scope. Places like some shady porn repos, pirated games and movies, etc. Of course there are some giants like thepiratebay but even they are nowhere as large as the ones you mentioned.

All of these, especially the big players, have high costs of maintenance and advertising. Just like their "legit" counterparts in size.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 55 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Once ads are allowed into a platform they will ultimately be what destroys it eventually.

Might take a week or a decade. But the lust of that easy ad money will ruin the thing they were put there to fund in the end.

[–] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

I don't think that's necessarily true - maybe it depends on (a) the owners of the platform and/or (b) whether there are sources of funding besides advertising

E.g. here in the UK, the BBC and Channel 4 are both broadcasters owned by the government, and both are funded at least in part by adverts. But I think both of them are relatively healthy and aren't on the brink of destroying themselves.

I think most of the BBC's funding comes from the licence fee (British people pay for a TV licence) but they make some money from ads shown to international audiences. Channel 4 is solely funded by adverts I think, but it's owned by the government and I think they have to abide by certain rules and targets.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 14 hours ago

Much like the twenty minutes of unskippable ads on commercial DVDs, the media companies and social media will enshittify until the general public turns to piracy.

Essentially, the sooner we all come to terms with piracy being ~~acceptable~~ necessary, the sooner they let off on their enshittification efforts.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 23 points 15 hours ago

Corporations like google and amazon damage the market and the industry more than "piracy" does

[–] Steve@startrek.website 52 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Whats a piracy site? Theres zero ads in the search window on qbittorrent…

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Where you find the torrents

[–] Nyxon@lemmy.world 27 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

qittorrent has a search function where you input and save the associated plug-in/address of the torrent site/feed you want and then you can just search within qbittorrent for whatever torrent you are looking for and select whatever you want for download without having to go to an website or another app/protocol.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 8 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

Yes but does it have Dark Mode?

Gottem

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

It has custom user-made themes that are dark mode, so it probably has dozens of dark modes.

[–] OrgunDonor@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

Using the rather fittingly named Dracula theme. Fantastic darkmode theme for qbittorrent

https://draculatheme.com/qbittorrent

[–] CyanFen@lemmy.one 12 points 14 hours ago
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[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I don't. I let my arr apps do it for me.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago

Hurr durr I don't so they don't exist

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 148 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Ads you say?

I'll have to take your word for it...

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like most of the kind of people who go out of their way to pirate also go out of their way to avoid ads.

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 16 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
  1. Download Firefox (or other preferred gecko browser)
  2. Install uBlock Origin add-on

Really going out of the way to avoid them.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

You'd be surprised how many people don't have the motivation/understanding to do even that.

[–] Tribble_Slayer@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I mean I set up a Pi-Hole along with U-Block Origin, and I have my Jellyfin NAS running all my shows/movies so that I very seldom see any advertisements ever..

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Pi hole is definitely great but I'll concede that getting that going probably qualifies as 'going out of the way'. That said, it is worth every penny/second spent configuring.

[–] Tribble_Slayer@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Absolutely. I simply have a deep seated hatred of ads of all shapes, sizes, and purposes (=

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Ads are like tribbles, keep slayin away

[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

Had this bite me once growing up. Forgot to get an ad block on my friends PC and ended up blasting porn ads on the family PC.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

That’s normal, it’s the same infrastructure cost then the licensing costs

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 176 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t think the facts match the claim, but I completely agree with the sentiment.

For years, the ‘legit’ consumer has had to deal with ad interruptions and bad UI and service disruptions and having media removed from their library. Something that pirates don’t even have to think about. The music revolution that Jobs and Apple created with iTunes, which allowed people to just buy music and just own it and just use it however they want (no DRM) with an ease that made piracy look difficult and seem too risky to bother, never came for TV or movies or books or any other media category.

And now the streaming revolution has all but undone that progress as well. You don’t own anything, a company decides when you have or lose access to something, and even if you pay money for access you are still advertised to and your data is still sold off.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Meanwhile, in a dark and forgotten corner of my PC, I STILL have several thousand MP3s I downloaded from Kazaa back in the day.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 63 points 22 hours ago (9 children)

I remember iTunes only letting you change computer like 2-3 times max before the drm would make mysic not work any more, but maybe it was no-drm in the beginning.

I had a chinese 1GB shuffle though so IDK if that's correct.

The chinese shuffle also doubled up as a usb key (very useful back then) and also didn't need iTunes to function smh.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Yeah IIRC you're right, though I remember you could contact apple and reset it.

It was called FairPlay DRM and they only really got rid of it around a decade after iTunes launched. I'm not 100% but I think I had to pay to upgrade my already paid-for library to DRM free too

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[–] quixotic120@lemmy.world 60 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Depends on the piracy site. If you go to some of the pirate streaming sites or the blogs that host tons of pirated software with 30 rapidgator links that die after a month (instead of just using a torrent like a normal sensible person trying to share a 2-30+gb file that is begging to be taken down) without Adblock it’s absolutely comical how many ads there are. Even with Adblock those are the sites that manage to still have ads because they’re on the cutting edge of sketchy shit. It’s like seeing a late 90s to early 2000s website with how much random bullshit is pasted everywhere

Despite that I’m pretty sure that Amazon, google, etc do far more nefarious shit behind the scenes in terms of tracking/fingerprinting you and collecting data to sell

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