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Windows will no longer have an integrated basic rich-text-based word app.

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[–] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

That's fine. Its usefulness dried up decades ago. There are better, free, non Microsoft word processing apps, and notepad always exists for your unimportant note taking.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 36 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Could they please retire modern Windows UI design?

Those contrasting color squares are not the zen those designers think. UI layout being different in paradigm for every application is not the productivity improvement they think. Using titlebars for something other than titles and control buttons is not optimization. Those buttons being some scratches on the screen barely visible is crap from any PoV I can imagine.

And somebody should explain to them that a good design for a billboard, a good design for a glossy magazine, a good design for a shop front, a good design for an office, a good design for a videogame, a good design for a movie and a good design for a workstation are all mutually incompatible in vast majority of cases.

And again about zen, simplicity, air and all that. I understand they think they are very smart and understanding of aesthetics. But zen would be having clean window borders and clearly visible control elements, for starters. And buttons not being just color squares. And in general solutions being subordinate to functional goals of the UI being usable. Industrial ergonomics are zen.

EDIT: I know it's offtopic, not interested - keep walking

[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I remember a while back Microsoft did an market research thing and found that of their brands, "Xbox" had positive consumer feedback while many of their other product names weren't nearly as favorable.

So what did they do? Did they try to understand what Xbox did differently to leverage that strategy elsewhere? Did they promote the Xbox marketing team to give them a wider purview?

No. They just renamed Zune Music to Xbox Music and Games for Windows to Xbox for Windows. THAT'LL FIX IT!

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 9 points 19 hours ago

And then they tank the name X-Box

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

"We need to recapture the Apple market share!"

"Got it boss, we'll make it stupid."

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

It just pains me to see, remember Chinese websites and software around 2007-2008?

Everybody (aware) looked at that with terror.

Now it's the same everywhere.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

I need any note taking app to require at least half a gigabyte of memory

[–] Ozonowsky@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I guess it's to direct more people to Microsoft 365 and Word. I hope that in reality more people will start to use LibreOffice and others.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

My office had a period where we used LibreOffice and others because of some licensing dispute with Microsoft. However that period of peace ended when we migrated to 365.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I've used windows since dos and have never once used wordpad in my entire life.
For basic text, notepad is just fine. For anything fancy, wordpad isn't good enough.
I feel that it doesn't have a place anywhere. It's like the bizarre paint 3D they've recently discontinued.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 hours ago

iirc wordpad had spellcheck which was sort of convenient

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (4 children)

They should open-source it, as they did with Calculator.

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still on the last windows os am ever gonna use windows 10

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you don’t plan to upgrade even after security updates end, what’s keeping you there now?

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Am prob gonna use linux fully and secondary os macos (not 100% sure erm) I also meant like windows oses

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[–] b0rg_@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

here's a little known fact about WordPad: It was Microsoft's first word processing program. Originally introduced as an add-on to MS-DOS in 1981, WordPad later became a part of Windows in the 1990s after the release of Windows 95. It was designed to be simpler and more user-friendly than its more advanced counterpart, Microsoft Word.

[–] dan@upvote.au 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

WordPad didn't exist until Windows 95. You might be thinking of Microsoft Write, which predated it.

[–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In Windows 95, wordpad was still write.exe, is it possible they just renamed it?

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 19 hours ago

Definitely possible, but I think WordPad in Windows 95 was written from scratch.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 208 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Wordpad always seemed like an annoying and unnecessary half-step between notepad and word to me.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)

its pretty neat if you dont have access to word, which is likely why they want to get rid of it

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 101 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I liked having the minimal formatting options in WordPad without the bloat of Word.

[–] FapFlop@lemmy.world 110 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Wordpad is also able to open large text files without having a stroke. RIP

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

In the nineties it produced the cleanest .rtf output of all the editors. Word makes toxic .rtf that unnecessarily turns formatting off and on at every line break and elsewhere too.

If it weren't for wordpad I wouldn't have learned how to output .rtf from my code.

RIP WordPad.

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[–] stoly@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Wordpad, as I recall, only existed because back in the Windows 95 days nobody had Office and couldn’t open Word documents.

[–] dan@upvote.au 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

WordPad in Windows 95 was a demonstration of how to use the rich-text editing component built into Windows. Its C++ source code came bundled with MFC (Microsoft Foundation Classes - programming library for making Windows apps using C++) as a sample.

The fact that it was a useful tool for end users was essentially just a side effect.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 91 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What, they couldn't add AI to it?

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You wouldn’t add AI to a hand bag?! You wouldn’t add AI to a car?! You wouldn’t add AI to a baby?! You wouldn’t shoot a police man?! … and then steal his helmet?! … and then add AI to it?!

[–] fishbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I do not like to add AI.

I would not like it here or there.

I would not like it anywhere.

I would not add it in a handbag.

I would not, could not, in a car.

Not to a baby, not to a helmet.

Not in my house, Not on a mouse.

I do not like to add AI.

I do not now, nor ever will I.

Do you hear me Microsoft?

Take your AI and fuck off.

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[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time... A long time.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (8 children)
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[–] comador@lemmy.world 109 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Microsoft: We can't spy on your usage when you use wordpad, use O365 instead! (guessing since MS recommends using O365 Word in its place).

TBH, I haven't used wordpad since Windows 98. Not saying others don't use it, but Notepad++ and a myriad of other options are better anyway.

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[–] _____@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

Word pad the goat of somehow interpreting files as not UTF8

[–] art@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (10 children)

As long as you have notepad, you're good.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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