Just don't get a modern HP laptop, or any old ones for that matter. They're crap (personal experience). If you are not planning on playing modern AAA games then probably an older thinkpad would do. A friend of mine has an upgraded X1 Carbon gen 1, but i recommend something a little bit more modern for your usecases. I don't know about battery life tho.
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They go above the budget
I don't plan on an HP or Dell. I have had the worst experiences with them. ThinkPad even if refurbished come for a higher price than $ 600 here.
Where do you live? Where i live, i can pick up old thinkpads for maybe around 200 euro.
You can get prices like that only in the first world countries, sadly
India
get a jiobook lol
That thing is worthless
refurbished thinkpad or dell xps. (buying something like a business model could save you money on the long run, because you'll be able to service the laptop later on. Instead of owning one of the new cheap consumer electronics that has everything soldered on and glued shut. And is generally made more cheaply.) Make sure to save enough money to afford a replaceḿent battery. The second hand one won't be at 100% capacity any more.)
No Dell pls. I do know that but I would like something a bit more updated.
My recommendation would be a Thinkpad
Which one ?
eBay has many used ThinkPads at pretty cheap prices. If I were you I'd look for one with a recent-ish AMD Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7. Look for CPUs with model numbers in the format 4xxx or 5xxx. And try to get 16GB of RAM if you can.
Only Intel is there in my area.
Those would also be good.
Preowned ThinkPad. You can get a 2018 or so X1 Carbon for $400 or less on eBay.
You mean the t480
T480 is a decent machine. Had one for work (embedded dev) for three years.
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ThinkPads are generally pretty good. Got mine for ~£450 on eBay and it's got ridiculous specs for that price (4k display, discrete GPU, 2 nvme slots, 32gb of ram and an 8 core 3.6ghz i7)
I think it lasts about 5 hours of light use on Linux but like many ThinkPads you can swap out the battery so bringing a spare charged battery with you is an option if need be
What kind of spec is that ?
Very high spec for the money, old hardware but still far more powerful than many modern laptops that are more expensive
You're not going to be running cyberpunk at 4k on it but for all of the things you mentioned it won't even break a sweat
Just make sure you pay attention to the specs because there are different builds of them with different amounts of memory, GPU and screen resolution I believe
i dont really know about laptops but maybe get a used or refurbished one?
at least two people around me buyed refurbished ones and had no problem
The battery backup is cut short in most refurbished.
Consider refurbished or second hand, please don't buy a brand new laptop as there is so much waste in the world already. If you buy from big brands, you might be able to buy replacement batteries. If not, install Linux and use TLP. You could also ask the seller to measure the battery life. I was patient and managed to score a used ThinkPad and the battery health was 98% when I bought it.
The thing is I don't know what kind of ThinkPad would be good for me.
I know people who graduated in CS with one of those old IBM X220s, but for the sake of modernity, there are a lot of options, the T and P series have good releases, but one model can have different specs. I have the T480s and if you can find a used T470 or T480 (s or without s), it will serve you well. Some of these will also allow you to upgrade the RAM and SSD. It might be a tad slow if you do all those things you mentioned at once, but I can open 4 or 5 PDFs, 30+ tabs and a few terminals and it's still quite responsive.
Some guides on different models (I don't know how useful these are, but they might help you):
Thanks
Which ThinkPad would you recommend?
I managed to score a Thinkpad E14 Gen 1 for a couple hundred (the successor to the T4XX series). I'm not sure what the market is like in your country, but I bookmarked a few auction sites and checked them daily for a few weeks before I snagged mine. Definitely I viable strategy in some areas.
They come slightly above the budget
A used framework laptop
Or a used MacBook pro, don't spend more then $200.
Well can't get them in my area. Those would be my first pick if I could.
Check out Swappa.com for a used laptop.... Got a very good deal on a thinkpad. Almost any laptop will work for what you do except for tinkering with almost everything which is kind of hard to define... Just avoid the Google Chromebooks
Ok probably your best option is a used Thinkpad, or maybe a Chromebook with the Chromebook distro, but if you want to do something crazy you could try the Pinebook Pro. It's a 14" arm laptop that comes with debian for $220. You might need some accessories, but it would still be <$400 for something new and interesting. However, it's a bit slow, and arm doesn't have as much software support. I think it could do everything a CS student needs, except browsing may be slow because web apps are so absurdly big and complicated now. Definitely would get more than 5 hours of battery.
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Maybe the new StarLabs StarLite. The CPU isn't the best but maybe it can do what you want.
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https://linuxpreloaded.com/ has a lot of linux compatible laptop-vendors.
Dunno where you are, so can't recommend a specific laptop. Guessing from your currency I'd guess NA and looking at linux-preloaded, boy are there few options from non-oligopoly vendors in NA :/ And what the fuck are those prices in NA? Laptops with 16GB for 3kCAD? Bruh.
You might have to shell out money to a corp that cares little for linux. Maybe these guys have a good list of affordable laptops https://laptopmountain.com/collections/linux
Im in India and for 16 GB will come in the price but the processor would be like a pentium.
People may not like the idea, but you can get pretty decent laptops from AliExpress for like 250$, which was like 50% of the price of a similar laptop from any local sales channel at the time. I did buy one for my son when he entered university and it still runs well: 5-6 hours battery life, 8 MB RAM, some older generation core i7 inside, full HD screen. The touchpad and keyboard are not great, but after 3 years they still work. The specs today would be better, I guess.
8 mb ? And I do type a lot I mean a lot.
8GB of course, and a 256 GB SSD if my memory serves me well -_-'
The keyboard is something I abuse on all my things including my phone so ...
If you have the money to spare and are based in the US, you could look at System76 laptops. They all have the latest hardware and coreboot. POP!_OS will allow you to do everything on that list for 7+ hours since you can install a foreign package manager like Guix, Nix, and Homebrew for all your tinkering needs and use flatpak for graphical applications.
Maybe buys something that you can expand in the future by adding extra RAM, replace the storage and exchange the battery. A lot of the modern laptops don't allow you to do any of those (planned obsolescence?). I know older ThinkPads are a good option but I think newer models are less serviceable. In Linux you can use tlp to tune up your battery usage and reduce the power consumption to the bare minimum. I would also recommend a second-hand ThinkPad, but just check if it is upgradeable.
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