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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (7 children)

So if YouTube is now serving up the ads directly to me, does that mean they're finally liable for the content of those ads? Can we have them investigated for all the malware, phishing, illegal hate speech, etc.?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No, because that would be communism, and that killed 100 million people. You also think genocide is bad, aren't you? And besides of that, if there were less regulations, you could make your own video platform to challenge Google's monopoly!

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (10 children)

i think people may have missed that you're not serious

[–] L3dpen@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Reading comprehension is for people who paid attention in school. Nerds.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

The problem with pretending to be a dumbass on the Internet, is it's almost impossible to outdo the professionals.

[–] Badland9085@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

It’s not possible for everyone to just tell if it’s supposed to be sarcasm. ADHD makes it hard. A bad day makes it hard. A tiring day makes it hard.

The downside of the misunderstanding isn’t just downvotes. It’s possibly a proliferation of misinformation and an impression that there are people who DO think that way.

Being not serious while saying something grim is not a globally understood culture either. It’s more common and acceptable in the Western world as a joke.

So… call it accessibility, but it’s just more approachable for everyone to just put an “/s”.

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[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (45 children)

Imagine all the cool stuff we could be doing if we weren’t wasting the time of hundreds of engineers figuring out how to shove ads in people’s faces.

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[–] Nima@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm getting tired, man. these people are truly just the shittiest individuals ever.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago (7 children)

MBAs on their way to destroy their company's relationship with their customers and cause a socioeconomic disaster (their numbers will grow by 0.01% 💪💪)

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[–] Buttons@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (24 children)

Ads will always be detectable because you cannot speed up or skip an ad like you can the rest of the video.

If they do make it so you can speed up or skip the ad sections of a video, mission accomplished.

If all else fails, I'd enjoy a plugin that just blanks the video and mutes the sound whenever an ad is playing. I'll enjoy the few seconds of quiet, and hopefully I can use that time to break out of the mentally unhealthy doom spiral that is the typical YouTube experience.

[–] Celestus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yep. YouTube must include a manifest with each video to tell the player what time ranges are un-skippable. Baked in ads were doomed from the beginning 🤡

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[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Wouldn't that technology make them easy to rewind forward?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

rewind forward

As a child of the cassette era, this phrase hurts my soul.

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[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've been getting around it by setting my frontend to use an embed request, that way YouTube thinks it's a third party embed and the ad injection doesn't work. I've also in the past geospoofed to Russia and that works to block ads too.

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

[Enshittification intensifies]

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[–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Honestly, I've kind of always wondered why they didn't just do this. It's always seemed like the obvious thing to me.

I mean, I hope it doesn't work, because screw Google, but I'm still surprised it took them this long to try it.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think more and more people are getting really tired of the ads, so it's starting to affect their revenue a little bit with all the ad blockers.

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Because it's much more expensive. What they're talking about here is basically modifying the video file as they stream it. That costs CPU/GPU cycles. Given that only about 10% of users block ads, this is only worth doing if they can get the cost down low enough that those extra ad views actually net them revenue.

To say that it's just much more expensive would be a huge understatement. This is not going to work, at least not in a near future..

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It wouldn't cost any CPU with custom software that Google can afford to write. The video is streamed by delivering blocks of data from drives where the data isn't contiguous. It's split across multiple drives on multiple servers. Video files are made of key frames and P frames and B in between the key frames. Splicing at key frames need no processing. The video server when sending the next block only needs a change to send blocks based on key frames. It can then inject ads without any CPU overhead.

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[–] Quik@infosec.pub 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is not necessarily the case.

You could only use this new system if the old one fails, ie. only for the say 10% of users that block ads, and so even if it were more expensive it would still be more profitable than letting them block all ads.

But I don’t think even that is the case, as they can essentially just "swap out" the video they’re streaming (as they don’t really stream "one video" per video anyway), bringing additional running costs to nearly zero.

The only thing definitely more expensive and resource intensive is the development of said custom software

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[–] TheAmishMan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On my phone I use youtube revanced and adguard dns, kiwi browser with ublock origin. On my PC I use just ublock origin. So far** I havent run into issues

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Happy I left google 90% and I am trying to leave the services that I cannot change my email or require a Google account

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[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's like Alphabet hate guaranteed money.

"How can we boost the next six months of investment for sake of stable income over the next decade?"

"More ads. Studies show everyone with internet access fucking loves them."

*Brilliant! Welcome to entry level lower senior-ish management, Jenkins."

"YESSSSS! I can't wait to tell the family about this when I'm on leave from this wonderfully accommodating work campus. All hail, G."

"All hail, G."

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[–] Mcduckdeluxe@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Can I ask why people act like YouTube is so evil for trying to make money off their site? They provide a service I value and it costs money to do so. No disrespect to anyone who doesn't want to watch ads or pay (like I do, I use it a LOT) but I don't understand why some people seem to be personally insulted by the idea that they can't get it for free forever with no strings attached.

Honest question, please don't flame me 🙏

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I pay other sites for creators. So for me $$ isn't the issue. Not when premium is less than 20.

The biggest issue with YouTube for me is that their ads are very intrusive/track quite a bit about what you do/can actually be malware. On addition, there's a good chance that money is mostly going to YouTube and not the people creating their works. There's a reason patreon is a thing for most successful creators. I also hate ads. I don't hate people getting paid, I hate YouTube for shoving ads down my throat and then turning around not paying people their dues. And in my opinion the worst way possible.

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[–] Bogusmcfakester@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm really getting the push I need to finally get rid of the last couple Google services I still use

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Crowdsourced "tagging" of the affected area of the video timeline (like Sponsorblock) would fix this, unless Google get really devious and randomize the placement of the ad for various users.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It will always be randomized, otherwise it's not targeted. There's no reason to run Swedish pampers ads in the US or Walmart ads in Japan.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (7 children)

"Placement" ie. on the timeline, friend. Not target.

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[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Did you read the article? The article shows a post from Sponsorblock and it specifically states that they turned off sponsor block submissions on effected browsers since they can't be reliable with the new ad delivery method

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[–] bazingabot@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The best adblocker is to stop using youtube 🤣

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Won't happen. People are too addicted at watching"creators" talking shits.

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 0 points 1 week ago

I wanted to jump into using Peertube, but unfortunately Youtube grew enormous because it was the only thing at the time. Pulling people from it to other platforms with less viewers and usually no compensation is tough. (although YT compensation as of late is a joke as well)

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