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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is this the reason why SmartTubeNext keeps breaking on my TV? The updates come pretty quickly but it's getting annoying cause my $1800 OLED has the processing power of a $50 Chinese Android phone and thus takes forever to install updates.

[–] emil_98@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It really is maddening how slow these expensive ass smart TVs are. Updating the software at all is often enough to make them nearly unusable

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Not to mention the hilariously tiny storage space. My TV came out in 2022, and has 8 freaking gigabytes of storage space. That's right, eight. Before I removed all the pre-installed bloat with ADB, it barely had enough space left to install one app fresh out of the box. It's like these smart TV manufacturers expect people to only use the built-in apps and nothing else ever.

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[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 0 points 2 months ago (14 children)

I've seen the effects on invidious these past days. 8 in 10 instances have been broken. Google is putting some serious work into shutting alternate frontends down. Shows you how much of a dent they're putting in the bottom line.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shows you how much of a dent they’re putting in the bottom line.

Or how desperate google execs are to get even the tiniest bump in revenue.

[–] Zidane@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

LINE MUST GO UP AT ALL TIMES

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 0 points 2 months ago

I doubt it's denting the bottom* line as much as the recent court rulings. And I doubt it's as much paying bills as it is paying vested interests.

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[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's about time we try to de-google.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I've been slowly working on it for the last year or so. It's gone a lot smoother than I thought it would.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

YouTube and my existing Gmail is the only thing tying me back. And the occasional Google maps. I don't even use the rest of their services anymore

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

THat sounds great! Gmail can be easily replaced, by like Proton mail or something.. Youtube is also very hard.. It's a vicious circle, "Youtubers" try to host their content elsewhere but nobody is looking. While some users also want to get rid of the youtube platform, but since most people are still and keep watching on YouTube, the content creators keep uploading there...

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I need a YouTube mirror on the darknet so I don't reach them directly

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's still youtube.. And if you talk about Tor, the Tor network is not gonna like this kind of traffic. Video streams are too heavy for the Tor network. Maybe I2Pnet... But again, it's still Google YouTube.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

You're right. This kind of thing is best done on I2P. It'll be PeerTube just with ripped videos from YouTube lol

[–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Gmail can be easily replaced, by like Proton mail or something

Except for the fact that you'll need to update your email address in so many places.

If you do move to a different provider, make sure you use your own domain. It's way more professional, and it lets you move to a different provider in the future without having to change your email address again. I've had one of my email addresses for a bit over 20 years across a bunch of different providers.

The paid version of Protonmail lets you have up to 3 custom domains. MXRoute and FastMail let you use your own domain too. MXRoute supports unlimited domains and addresses; you're just limited by total disk space.

If the email address is important to you, it's better to use a paid service since it'll usually give you proper support and an SLA.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, if you can effort is, buy a domain and use it for email. I also have melroy at melroy dot o r g. However, I still redirect my mail, since I don't like paying for services haha. That being said, I'm planning to setup my own mail server (I finally now have the infrastructure at home and static IP, needed for this).

Anyhow, DNS also needs to be replaced by something better.

[–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Forwarding is a decent approach too. Just note that it's not 100% reliable (due to limitations around spam filtering) and you will sometimes have emails that get dropped.

[–] ayaya@lemdro.id 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

+1 for MXroute. I have unlimited domains with 25GB of storage for $30 every 3 years. So less than a dollar per month. Looks like they are still offering it. It's more than enough for email especially considering the Gmail account I used for 15 years was under 5GB.

I switched to them at the beginning of the year so about 9 months ago and have not had any issues.

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[–] ludicolo@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

highly reccomend Grayjay and Freetube. Futo claims to be foss but it is only source viewable (my apologies having a brain fart and cannot remember the actual term.) which to my knowledge means you can see the source code but not redistribute it. They ask for a one time $10 payment but the app functions the exact same with or without payment. Grayjay does not have a desktop application but they are looking for someone with experience to develop one. Freetube is open source and contains extra addons like de arrow and watching from invidious instances along with a desktop and mobile application. It's UI is less appealing than Grayjay ( at least personally) but it's the only way I watch youtube on PC now and I use Grayjay on mobile. Both of these contain sponsorblock too! ;)

If you watch YouTube on an android TV you can sideload smart tube TV, which is ad free as well. While I personally don't reccomend it you can sign in with your yt account on both grayjay and smart tube to impket subscriptions.

If you are looking for a solution for YouTube TV... Well... You may need to sail the 7 seas and live with not watching live (unless others have a solution for this.

Fuck Google.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 2 months ago

I agree. But to be very honest, de-googling is very important but not always very easy. So I did personally move away already from Gmail. I also now host my own Nextcloud instance, which I use for my agenda as well as contacts. Meaning I also don't sync or store contacts or anything in Google. I don't use any cloud services for storage either, again Nextcloud (self hosted) solved that for me.

Then I was never using ChromeOS, so that helps, I'm only using Linux. However, I do have an Android device. It's really hard to get rid of that, maybe a custom ROM, is that valid? Anyhow, and last but not least Google search, Google images, Google maps, etc. I don't want to go from Google Search to another big Microsoft corp, so moving to Bing is a no go. That also means all those meta search engines is also not a good alternative, which includes: DuckDuckGo, ecosia and alike.. Qitchain, presearch or Yacy isn't working for me either. It's just not good enough.

Thus finding a good search alternative is hard! I'm actually considering as a software engineer to build my own.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Google shouldn't be allowed to operate as a loss leader" - Reddit and Lemmy

"Paying for the service? Fuck that" - Also lemmy and Reddit.

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why give money to YouTube when I can give it to my favorite creators, and the developers of the alt yt clients/mirrors I use?

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Because you have not set up that agreement and the vast majority of people don't pay outside of ads or a singular monthly sub.

The next best thing is nebula which has 600,000 monthly subs at $5. Which means a maximum payout pool of 18M a year.

Look at the number of users vs donations. The only reason this place works is low traffic and low bandwidth. The vision you describe would be great but it's not going to happen. ESPECIALLY once users are forced to pay rather than getting shit for free.

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You don't need all, or even most users money. Plenty of people make enough money off of the portion of their fanbase that pays them to not only survive, but thrive and grow.

You don't need all, or even most. You don't need this to be the norm for it to be sustainable.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh right, in the magical world where people are giving their money away. The majority of content creators would of left your platform. But it's okay it's easy to steal their right to distribution and handwave it away as not a problem.

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

This isn't some magical world, this is how most open source software projects and even online content creators make their money.

Creators make way fucking more from patron than AdSense, even if its only a percentage of their audience. Do you know how much fucking watch time it would take to match the $5 a month I give to several of my favorite producers of online video?

A lot more than either your or I have time for, certainly more than the content they create.

You need only a sliver of your audience to pay, and platforms like patron prove this works.

The fact you're baffled by even a small percentage of people donating to gratis projects says a lot about how you value volunteer labor, and its pretty fucking sad.

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[–] takeda@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Amazing. As if these communities are made with thousands of people having different opinions.

And here's mine: since Google used their position to essentially destroy any competition in this area, why should be my duty to protect their revenue? Even if I can afford to pay their services, I won't and will actively discourage anyone else from doing so, by installing uBlock, ReVanced, NewPipe, SmartTube, GrayJay etc.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

You can have a diverse community that has a large majority opinion. And what I said is certainly the prevailing opinion.

And to answer you about your personal view: You are stealing the right to distribution and taking money away from both corporations but more importantly creators. And I've seen the rates of direct donations eg patrons . It's not ideological for most people, it's about getting content for free.

Are you donating to every channel you are watching? I doubt it. Even the people who care mostly only donate directly to one of two top patrons, while still consuming many many more.

If you are actually donating, then good for you, I congratulate you for living what you preach and have zero qualms. But you would be a statistical edge case.

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if these services are on small cloud providers. If so then they can just block their entire CIDR.

I wonder if they were to move to GPC if they would have better luck.

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[–] art@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm a YouTube creator, part of the partner program, and I also manually upload to TILvids. The videos I make generate about $100-$300 a year through the partner program, so I'm not a professional by any means. It feels like they're trying to keep creators from leaving by putting up small roadblocks that limit our reach beyond the platform. Given PeerTube's non-profit model, I see it as a potential future for content sharing. Though there are a few rock stars on YouTube, most of the creators on that platform make little to no money from publishing videos. There are more people like me than Linus Media Group.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Yeah its really too bad how Youtube treats other video creators. Its a strange world. Hopefully peertube (given enough time) will have some viable options or at least an alternative. Is there any other platforms that work with video creators like yourself? I personally dont know of too many other than maybe twitch? I haven't been keeping up.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I would guess a significant number of "creators" are motivated by the idea of eventually becoming a hit and making much more money, though. And wouldn't really do it of they didn't have that dream.

Not sure what percentage, though. Maybe less than I think.

[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

I took full advantage of invidious while it was still working, now I am anxious of ever going back to YouTube. It won't be long before they requiring giving them your iris scan before watching a video on that shit platform.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Hmm. Per Facebook v. Power Ventures, it could be a (criminal) violation of the CFAA to "circumvent" IP blocks.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago

I've noticed a few people on Reddit taking about getting possibly shadow banned on YouTube, myself included. With no real explanation why? Every video just comes up as "content not available" when logged in. It started a week ago or so. I wonder if this is all related?

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 0 points 2 months ago (11 children)

I'm honestly surprised peertube has lasted as long as it has as it is

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