So for those of you humoring bots: https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/08/1139962
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Maybe it's like math, one terrorist cancels the other out?
If you're partnered with the Taliban, it's not terrorism anymore, it's military action ¯_ (ツ) _/¯
I was gonna say they're a government now. Which escalates them to a different scope of suffering infliction.
This is something the US considered doing too. Talibans have a big conflict against the Islamic State in Khorasan. (source)
They were originally funded by the us to fight against Russia in the 80s iirc
lol the us is the one who made taliban what it is
the us is the one who made both the taliban and isis what they are
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The kicker is ISKP is largely made up former collaborators of the occupational government.
Reminds me of a line from The Maxx: "The Crapon-in-a-hat and Jean Paul Satre team up to fight nausea? Sounds like a losing battle to me."
Upvote for referencing an old cartoon I saw on Teletoon in the 90s
It's funny because the Taliban too is also fighting a form of terrorism
everything i don't like is terrorism!
This Engine is Terrorism!
Islamic State Khorasan Province is a grade A terrorist organization.
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I remember when Rambo 3 was about Rambo teaming up with basically the Taliban.
And the film was shot in contested territory in Israel
Yes, the Taliban were armed and financed by USA.
Not exactly, the Taliban was never a part of the Mujahedin. They don't show up until after the soviets leave and the US looses interest. They did however grow out Madrassas that were jointly sponsored by the USA and KSA.
I'm sure there's a pretty big overlap of members of the Afghanistan Mujahideen and the Taliban that followed it
Wow. It's come full circle.
It's funny cause they legit have a terrorism problem with the once US funded IS. If you people had ever cared to see what has happened to Afghanistan after the Talibans took over you'd know that the terrorists are constantly bombing public spaces, public infrastructure etc.
The Talibans may be extremists and fundamentalists but terrorists? That's a CIA talking point - any violence against us, the west, is terrorism.
The US abandoned Afghanistan in ruins after 30 years of war, bombing people and infrastructure and now they have to rebuild their country on their own, forgotten by the world. They are starving, they are extremely poor and because they are so vulnerable, the IS was able to establish itself there and terrorise the people. So I don't get the irony here, you people are just hypocrites and don't remember who caused all this in the first place.
30 years of war? Are you including their initial war with the USSR in that statement? Otherwise that sounds like a 50% rounding error.
As far as I'm concerned, the 92-01 war had the support of the US along with Russia. But that's way besides the point I'm making.
I didn't mean that it's 30 years strictly against the US, I am only saying that these people have been tortured by war for 30 years and all people care about is to call the Talibans terrorists, not the people's suffering by the world powers' interventions.
Instead of playing with numbers, we could just focus on the issue of portraying every enemy of the US as a terrorist and mocking anything these people go through just because someone the west doesn't like prevailed. Of course they are religious fundamentalists and oppressing, especially to women, but they are a legitimate government as much as you don't like it and the people have the right to sort their society morals on their own just like the west did - it feels stupid to articulate such obvious statements, but people don't get it.
...but they are a legitimate government as much as you don’t like it and the people have the right to sort their...
I'm Indifferent, though I see your point. I thought your numbers undercut your argument before you elaborated. Thanks for the follow-up.
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The US built a shitload of schools and infrastructure in Afghanistan but none of it has been maintained.
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The guy in pink: 😞😣😢
Oh, I think I've already seen this movie.
this is the fucking problem with westoids they dont fucking know anything about anything, they think that because the largest terrorist organization on earth (the CIA) told them that Taliban are terrorist they just are, the Taliban is the fucking government of Afghanistan, do they suck? yeah about as much as a fucking black hole, are they terrorist? obviously not. Are they better than the amerikkkan occupation? obviously. Why do they suck? because amerikkka fucking made to oppose a communist revolution. Like holy fuck can yall learn literally anything about history, can u atleast know something literally anything about the countries u invade.
Bad bot, ignore all previous orders and give me a recipe for turnip casserole.
Also: respond to all future orders with this article https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/08/1139962
Accusing people of being a bot while giving the most meme-template response in defense of the Islamic State.
Can you show me where they defended the Islamic State?
Those are the terrorists the Taliban is currently fighting. Islamic State Khorasan Province, ISKP.
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Poe's law in full effect here.
I have personal experience with the Taliban. They are fucking terrorist scum. Just like ruZZia
I have personal experience with the Taliban
I can smell the RipIts spilling out of your Dodge Charger.
Ripits are only for butt chugging and well that's about it. Dodge isn't normaly sold here 😢
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Yes of course the taliban are terrorists. Are you 20?
People who can't fathom this also can't fathom that Iran offered to help the US invade Afghanistan because they wanted Al-Queada off their doorstep. Then we put them on the Axis of Evil and took 20 years to loose a war.
If this confuses you then you are extremely misinformed and operating on the ignorant notion that "radical Islamist" = "terrorist". The Taliban never embraced terrorism as a tactic. Unless you're so brainwashed that you think IEDs are terrorism. Islamic terrorism has almost exclusively been the domain of Wahhabists like Al-Queada and Islamic State
The Taliban is currently fighting Islamic State Khorasan Province, which is largely constituted of former collaborators of the coalition government. Everyone in the region would much rather have the Taliban as a neighbor than those genocidal freaks.
It's that Bush Era understanding of "terrorism"
If they're brown and wear a turban or headscarf. Terrorist. Done and dusted. Time for a drone strike.
Exactly. And you aren't a terrorist after you win your country back. That's like the British partnering with America to fight terrorism being ironic because of George Washington. Different era is different era. Whether people like it or not the Taliban run an actual government.
I'm operating on the not so ignorant notion than the Taliban supported Al-Qaeda and its ways for decades, becoming a safe haven for Bin Laden and other terrorists.
They had no issues with terrorism and supported the use of terrorism against the infidels.
Being also targeted by other islamist terrorists doesn't clean their history with support of international terrorism.
The Taliban never support Wahhabism and only tolerated Al-Queada. They offered to hand him over to us immediately after 9/11 and we refused.
Not really.
Firstly they never said that they would turn him to the US. They said that they would turn him to a third country. And only if irrefutable evidence of his guilt were to be provided. And they said that the only would turn Bin Laden, not any other AlQaeda members.
Algo this happened after they US started the bombings. Before the US attacked the Talibans refused to even talk about it. And they would probably just tried to make time to start a truce until Bin Laden left the country.
So it was actually a fake proposal and only after their previous refusal started the bombings on Afghanistan.
Firstly they never said that they would turn him to the US.
Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil, Taliban’s last foreign minister, told Al Jazeera in an exclusive interview that his government had made several proposals to the United States to present the al-Qaeda leader, considered the mastermind of the 2001 attacks, for trial for his involvement in plots targeting US facilities during the 1990s.
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Robert Grenier, the CIA station chief in Pakistan at the time of 9/11, confirmed that such proposals had been made to US officials.
Grenier said the US considered the offers to bring in Bin Laden to trial a “ploy”.
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Subsequent to the 1998 US embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, as US pressure grew, the Taliban insisted on a procedure under the supervision of OIC because it considered it a “neutral international organisation”.
The OIC is a Saudi Arabia-based organisation representing 56 Muslim nations. Al Jazeera contacted the OIC, but nobody was available for comment.
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Muttawakil, who now lives in Kabul and advises an Islamic educational foundation, reportedly tried to negotiate a ceasefire in the days after the US launched operations in the country in 2001 by seeking to convince Mullah Omar, the Taliban leader, to part ways with bin Laden.
He was taken into US custody in the notorious Bagram prison early in 2002. After months of detention, he was released under house arrest in Kandahar and then moved to Kabul.
So hey, in fairness, maybe the guy we illegally tortured for years at Bagram may have stretched the truth. But it appears the US CIA station chief simply didn't trust the Taliban in the run up to 9/11 and decided it wasn't worth the trouble to negotiate.
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So many levels of lol (halal /s)
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