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Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to all desktop users worldwide | It is Firefox’s strongest privacy protection to date, confining cookies to the site where they were created (blog.mozilla.org)
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[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Get fucked, advertisers.

[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Advertisers track you with device fingerprinting and behaviour profiling now. Firefox doesn't do much to obscure the more advanced methods of tracking.

[–] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Don't all the advanced ways rely on JavaScript?

[–] hoot@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (14 children)

Lots do. But do you know anyone that turns JS off anymore? Platforms don't care if they miss the odd user for this - because almost no one will be missed.

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Honestly would be hard to do. There a perfectly legitimate and everyday uses for pretty much everything used in fingerprinting. Taking them away or obscuring them in one way or another would break so much.

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[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

EU outlaws it

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

The EU isn't the only place on the planet, even if its laws have an impact.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

There is still plenty of fish for advertisers, sadly.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (12 children)

For those who don't care to read the full article:

This basically just confines any cookies generated on a page, to just that page.

So, instead of a cookie from, say, Facebook, being stored on site A, then requested for tracking purposes on site B, each individual site would be sent its own separate Facebook cookie, that only gets used on that site, preventing it from tracking you anywhere outside of the specific site you got it from in the first place.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Hahahahaha so it doesn't break anything that still relies on cookies, but neuters the ability to share them.

That's awesome

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Honestly, I thought that's how it already worked.

Edit: I think what I'm remembering is that you can define the cookies by site/domain, and restrict to just those. And normally would, for security reasons.

But some asshole sites like Facebook are making them world-readable for tracking, and this breaks that.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They've been doing this with container tabs, so this must be the successor to that idea (I'm going to assume they'll still have container tabs).

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Container tabs are still a thing in FF. This is based on that work, if I remember correctly.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I love container tabs. It's one of the reasons I went back to FF.

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[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Total Cookie Protection was already a feature, (introduced on Feb 23st 2021) but it was only for people using Firefox's Enhanced Tracking Protection (ETP) on strict mode.

They had a less powerful third-party cookie blocking feature for users that didn't have ETP on strict mode, that blocked third party cookies on specific block lists. (i.e. known tracking companies)

This just expanded that original functionality, by making it happen on any domain, and have it be the default for all users, rather than an opt-in feature of Enhanced Tracking Protection.

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[–] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Isn't this basically Firefox's version of the third party cookie block that Chrome rolled out a few months ago? Or am I missing something here?

I mean, it's good news either way but I just want to know if this is somehow different or better.

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[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

For those who don't care to read the full article

Or even the whole title, really

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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Yup. Nobody else gets those cookies.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Maybe they should try to develop the uBlock Origin extension with the dev to make it last more.

[–] tlou3please@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (22 children)

I think this tips it over the edge for me to switch to Firefox

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I hope so! It's a wonderful side of the Internet to be on

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[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Does this stop me from adding to my website an iframe to facebook where facebook can keep its cookies for my user? That would be great but I doubt it.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

IIRC an iframe contents is treated as a separate window, so cookies aren’t shared either

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (14 children)

Is this the reason why I have to "confirm it's you" every time I sign into a Google service now? I appreciate the fact that Firefox's protection is so good that Google doesn't recognize my PC anymore, but it's extremely annoying to have to pull out my phone every time I want to watch YouTube.

This might be what finally convinces me to ditch Google for good. Good job, Firefox devs.

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[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago

Well, now how am I supposed to cross reference my need of fuzzy slippers and woodworking stuff?!

[–] MinusPi@pawb.social 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It baffles me that this was ever not the case.

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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They call it TCP. All we need now is IP, and we'll be set lol

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