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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Let's introduce a national digital I'd to stop the kids accessing shit online. And to ensure that we need to make it linked to ur government I'd.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 0 points 3 months ago

You'd what?

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah there's no way that could go wrong or be exploited by unscrupulous actors. Maybe parents should actually parent their kids? Extreme, I know.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

What could possibly go wrong. There definatly wouldnt be any authoritarian shit going on.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let's not be pieces of shit using "for the kids" to destroy basic privacy rights online.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But think of the children they must be protected we can't possibly expect parents to be responsible so the government must step in to ensure their safety.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Apparently about 10% of people are getting your sarcasm

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

We're at a pretty bad part where that type of sarcasm is someone else's legit stance.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 months ago
[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So every person can be identified on whatever sites they do whatever they post.

That's China. Not America

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

You could very easily build the system to perform the age check without logging it to the user's ID since the check only needs to be performed once to create an account and just block anyone without one from seeing any of the content.

Estonia has digital ID based services and they aren't China. In fact China despises them because they've made the cutting edge in digital public services without having to compromise citizen privacy, which makes China look even worse for going out of their way to invade citizen privacy when it isn't even necessary to offer the same safety measures and services.

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What about we introduce more control from teachers and parents about what devices kids have access to, and give them some supervision too while we're at it?

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That will never work. The people can't be trusted they must be controlled with an iron fist of justice and glory.

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

So people can't be trusted, but you want to give control of everything to one person/group? Sounds contradictory to me.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

Daddy government knows best. Daddy government will protect you from thought crimes.

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[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago

Would you give your kids blank plane tickets for them to go anywhere in the world alone ?

I guess not, then don't give them a internet connected device without surveillance. It's YOUR responsibility to keep YOUR kids safe not mine. I don't want to be forced to give MY ID online for YOUR kids to be loose on the internet as much as I don't want to see your kids roaming alone anywhere they feel like.

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[–] miseducator@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not even the fun kind of X. C'mon, iPad kids!

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Not enough x to be fun

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I found it interesting to see where Roblox falls off the chart.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (14 children)

You should have to actually validate your age to use social media and you should be required to be 18.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (24 children)

How do you validate age over the internet?

A drawing of two dogs and a computer desk with text. One dog is on the computer chair with it's paw on the keyboard. The dogs are looking at each other. The caption reads "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog". looking

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[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Easy and cheap access to anonymous, private, libre, and freedom-respecting computing is the inaliable human right of all hackers and future hackers.

I shouldn't even need an email to sign up, why do you think I'm here?

[–] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nah I don't want corpos to have even more information on me than they already have.

It's time for people to finally accept again that you can't shield kids from anything, especially if it seems forbidden and interesting.

Also if you really wanted to pick a verification age you would have to go with 25+. 18 years old are just legal 17 years old and 20 years are barely out of school and don't have any experience about anything. 30+ years are stuck in the system and 65+ simply don't care anymore.

Actually raise the verification age to 99+. No wait just ban social media for everyone, it sucks and is unhealthy, go tough grass or something.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (7 children)

So don’t have an age restriction for tobacco, or alcohol or strip clubs either cuz you can’t shield kids from anything? Got it.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just dont give internet connected devices to kids and your problems are solved. I would agree with company being forced to verify the age of a person before signing a internet contract. Don't give open access to internet to kids it's just like sending them anywhere in the world alone.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

right, just don't give kids cigarettes or guns and your problems are solved...

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[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No I don't think we should give corpos access to even more identifying info about us. You have a kid YOU have the responytobtake care of them not me. If you believe a kid should be able to go on the internet without proper surveillance it's on you if something happens to that kid not me. I would not give my kids a blank plane ticket to go anywhere they want in the world without surveillance, it's the same for the internet. It's not my responsibility to secure your kid it's yours.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

U don’t have to do anything unless u work for the agency that is verifying age. Would you say the same about school shooters? Not your problem. Up to parents to stop their kids. Unfortunately, we allow anybody to create life as there are a lot of bad parents.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Your argument does not make sense. I defend my kid from school shooting by not living in the States. Don't give guns to deranged people and most of your problems with school shooting is solved.

I do not have to give my ID when I walk around a school.

Letting a kid roam on the internet is more like giving them blank plane tickets than sending them to school.

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[–] mouserat@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago

I mean it's run by the biggest kid, so I guess it's understandable that they at least want to check out what their like-minded fellow is doing over there.

I hope they turn away in disgust.

[–] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago

Terminally online toddlers

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This what we're calling gen alpha then?

Apple is gonna love that free advertising

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Is it really any worse than Gen X's symbol of youthful rebellion being a cable TV channel owned and operated by Viacom so they can advertise music that's been packaged up by the big three labels?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Oh well, whatever, nevermind

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[–] Jestzer@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I’m surprised that Facebook consistently ranks higher than Snapchat on these charts. I thought younger generations considered Facebook to be for “old people” for just about 7 years now.

[–] GeraltOfRivia_@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (9 children)

It's just not true in reality though. I see people from young teenagers to people in their twenties and thirties using Facebook. It's dominant amongst all age groups and the "Facebook is for old people" trope is a myth that needs to die out.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Facebook needs to die out.

[–] GeraltOfRivia_@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I don't disagree. I'm just saying, it's still incredibly popular. I don't even have an account myself.

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[–] soupbowl@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Do COPPA fines apply here?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago

Have they ever?

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[–] GrouperGater96@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So what. Everyone was on twitter in middle school for me back when it first became a thing. It's not new news.

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