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[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (14 children)

You should have to actually validate your age to use social media and you should be required to be 18.

[–] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nah I don't want corpos to have even more information on me than they already have.

It's time for people to finally accept again that you can't shield kids from anything, especially if it seems forbidden and interesting.

Also if you really wanted to pick a verification age you would have to go with 25+. 18 years old are just legal 17 years old and 20 years are barely out of school and don't have any experience about anything. 30+ years are stuck in the system and 65+ simply don't care anymore.

Actually raise the verification age to 99+. No wait just ban social media for everyone, it sucks and is unhealthy, go tough grass or something.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (7 children)

So don’t have an age restriction for tobacco, or alcohol or strip clubs either cuz you can’t shield kids from anything? Got it.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just dont give internet connected devices to kids and your problems are solved. I would agree with company being forced to verify the age of a person before signing a internet contract. Don't give open access to internet to kids it's just like sending them anywhere in the world alone.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

right, just don't give kids cigarettes or guns and your problems are solved...

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[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No I don't think we should give corpos access to even more identifying info about us. You have a kid YOU have the responytobtake care of them not me. If you believe a kid should be able to go on the internet without proper surveillance it's on you if something happens to that kid not me. I would not give my kids a blank plane ticket to go anywhere they want in the world without surveillance, it's the same for the internet. It's not my responsibility to secure your kid it's yours.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (10 children)

U don’t have to do anything unless u work for the agency that is verifying age. Would you say the same about school shooters? Not your problem. Up to parents to stop their kids. Unfortunately, we allow anybody to create life as there are a lot of bad parents.

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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

How do you validate age over the internet?

A drawing of two dogs and a computer desk with text. One dog is on the computer chair with it's paw on the keyboard. The dogs are looking at each other. The caption reads "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog". looking

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (6 children)

You have to go somewhere to register in person and then you have to do Face ID to log in.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bet you’re fine with using government IDs for porn sites as well. 🤦‍♂️

The internet was better when everyone was just a random username and people didn’t use their real names for everything.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The execution is poor but I don’t se anything wrong with restricting kids from accessing porn. Especially violent porn. Some of the toxic and violent behavior men exhibit in society is due to porn.

Don’t let red and blue blind your better judgment. Think freely.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You need to understand privacy laws and understand it’s the fucking parents responsibility to protect their kids from things they don’t want them to see.

You are getting into the territory of thought policing and need to learn to think before using “your better judgment” to control other people.

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

I wish your fucking parents would ban you from this website

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Why don’t we let kids into adult video stores or sex shops? We live in a digital world and it’s time to put the keyboard away if you can’t get with that. There is a solution whether your cave brain can handle it or not. Idk what it is yet, but it can be done effectively and as safely as you give away your info the people online today.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes it’s called installing blockers on your children’s devices or controlling their access to the internet till an age that you personally are ok with your child accessing the internet. Teaching them critical thinking and internet literacy would go a long way as well.

How about instead of getting triggered that your corporate daddy isn’t nannying humanity, go out and put some effort into parenting your own children and teaching them better?

Do you even have kids or are you just getting offended?

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You clearly don’t have children or are around people with children or you would understand how much poor parenting happens. It’s way too easy to have kids. You need to solve for that or else you need to do the parenting for them.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You didn’t answer my question and reflected it back on me. Do you have children?

Cause clearly you don’t understand what’s a parent’s responsibility is.

No single entity needs control over who does or doesn’t have access to the internet and you don’t need to control the parenting of others.

That’s call being a dictator.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Regardless of whether I have children or not, I would hope you would understand that being a good parent is intentional and not everybody is equipped or willing to do that especially if they didn’t intend on having children to begin with. You’re in a fantasy world if you think you can just expect everybody to be a good parent. That’s like expecting everybody to a good citizen. It’s not gonna happen. Unless you want to put restrictions on who is capable and allowed to bring life into the world, then you need another solution to parent those children who were born to bad parents. It’s for the protection of their children and for your children who will live in the world with them.

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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or and hear me out, parents could parent their children! Monitor your children's internet, put the basic amount of effort into learning how to block websites, do some form of parenting and stop trying to be your kids friends.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You live in a fantasy world. It’s way too easy to have kids and nobody is doing anything about it. There are and will be bad and/or absent parents. How do you solve that problem?

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hahah so expecting parents to parent their children is living in a fantasy world?

Well one way we can solve that is adding a section about internet safety to parenting classes.

At the end of the day the parents are responsible for their children's actions, maybe we should add some consequences for those actions.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes it is. As long aa almost anybody can create a life whenever they can/want, we will live in a world where some people will not be effective parents. If you have children you will understand that it takes a lot of time, effort and foresight to be a good parent. It’s intentional and doesn’t just happen. Not everybody is going to or is capable of doing it.

You’re speaking my language now. I totally agree that we need education on parenting whether you’re going to be a parent or not. If you’re willing to go towards restrictions on having children then we’d be on the same page. Nobody wants to do that tho, so this is the alternative.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One of my controversial views is, you should have to get a licence to have a child, like passing a teat to prove you can be a parent. If we have to pass a test to drive a killing machine, they should have to pass a test to not raise a killing machine.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

totally agree. the idea to restrict access to social media is out of desperation because nobody wants to put restrictions on creating life.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Face ID, you are even more dystopian than I thought.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People use their Face ID all day every day. What are you talking about? You don’t think Apple has all that data?

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[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Easy and cheap access to anonymous, private, libre, and freedom-respecting computing is the inaliable human right of all hackers and future hackers.

I shouldn't even need an email to sign up, why do you think I'm here?

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