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I happened to click a link that took me to the associated ~~twitter~~ X account for something I was interested in and was greeted by not one, not two, but four modern day web popups.

I know it's nothing new. I've got a couple of firefox plugins that are usually quite good at hiding this sort of nonsense, but I guess they failed me today (or, I shudder to think, there were even more that were blocked, and this is what got through)

What's the worst new/not-signed-in user experience you've encountered recently?

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Anybody know why google has a popup on every major website now? And more importantly, how to get rid of that without creating an account?

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[–] alexc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The web. It was good while it lasted.

[–] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

robots.txt is the perfect summary of the web era. A plain text file that politely asked web crawlers not to do certain things. Such an innocent time.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 0 points 1 month ago

It took long enough but the pop-ups evolved into new pop-ups.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's kind of bothersome how almost blind I am to them now. I habitually find a way to close them without having to read or focus my eyes on anything. That's not to say it isn't still an annoyance.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is so common it has a name, it’s called banner blindness.

One of the important aspects of interface design is supposed to be not showing alerts for everything, so that when they pop up you feel compelled to pay attention.

Not long ago a nurse killed an older woman by giving her the wrong medicine; she took accountability but called out that the software they use provides so many alerts that (probably unofficial) policy was to just click through them to get to treating the patient. One of those alerts was a callout that the wrong dosage was selected and she zoomed right by it out of habit.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Another term I seen in the context of healthcare is alert fatigue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alarm_fatigue

Alarm fatigue or alert fatigue describes how busy workers (in the case of health care, clinicians) become desensitized to safety alerts, and as a result ignore or fail to respond appropriately to such warnings.[1] Alarm fatigue occurs in many fields, including construction[2] and mining[3] (where vehicle back-up alarms sound so frequently that they often become senseless background noise), healthcare[4] (where electronic monitors tracking clinical information such as vital signs and blood glucose sound alarms so frequently, and often for such minor reasons, that they lose the urgency and attention-grabbing power which they are intended to have), and the nuclear power field. Like crying wolf, such false alarms rob the critical alarms of the importance they deserve. Alarm management and policy are critical to prevent alarm fatigue.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Automation engineer here: alarm management is a hugely important part of making a plant operable.

It is also a project that is never done, you must always review alarms that come in and see if they are providing useful information and what the operators are supposed to do with said information.

If the operators are not supposed to do anything with the information, then what is the point of having the alarm?

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago (13 children)

I have a very hard time believing that these companies are unaware of how auful this shit makes their webpages.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

It's diminishing customer experience creep, except the company doesn't understand what the user data means. They run A/B tests of different layouts, seeing what kind of feedback each gets to learn more about design choices and users. Each version should get its own feedback and then that data is compiled by data scientists into actionable feedback, things that can be done to improve the website in the direction the company thinks is an "improvement".

Twitter abandoned those data scientists with the initial layoffs. There is no one to tell them what works and what impacts the customer experience, which is why each time the internal question of "how do we open up for engagement?" they answer it the same way, "Use existing user bases by linking their account to Twitter." The result is several login requests all looking for the same cookie.

It's lazy or inexperienced management. Knowing the type of person Elon hires, it's probably both.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If this were a competent company, I'd say that they're entirely aware of it and how fucking awful it is, but that there's a mandate coming from somewhere that the page MUST include x, y and z and so they add x, y and z but usually try to at least make the site usable.

This being Twitter, though, I'm sure it's because a screaming man-child threw a sink at someone and told them to do it or they'll be fired and so they did it in the most half-assed obnoxious way they could manage.

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[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's intentional, they want you logged in so they can track what you're doing

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

iT’s bEtTeR iN tHe aPp

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

Oh they're aware, they just don't care 99% of the time.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They know exactly. Once you create a Twitter account, consent to cookies and link your Google account (AKA give them all your data) you'll never see these pop-ups again.

Basically extortion.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

If you ever want to read anyone’s tweets somewhat chronologically or see someone’s latest tweet, you’re gonna create an account.

Tweets as view on people’s profiles are totally scrambled (presumably to thwart LLM-feeding scrapers).

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I do a lot of my browsing from an iPhone 11. At least twice a day, a page will crash and reload halfway through whatever article I was trying to read. I get it’s a few generations old, but since when do you need state of the art tech to view what should be a static page.

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[–] glowie@h4x0r.host 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Cancel X period brbgoatftw

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago

One of the few surviving nitter instances

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago
[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I will say that the Google Auth prompt in particular is just this huge nuisance and a horrible experience. People should feel stupid for including it in their web experience.

[–] yum@lemmy.eco.br 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait, people choose to put it in their website??

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yes. How else would it get there?

[–] yum@lemmy.eco.br 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Given how intrusive google is, I wouldn't be surprised if it was kinda forced by them along with some other functionality

[–] xtapa@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But it acts as a Login for the page instead of registering a new account? How would Google do that without the page owners permission?!

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[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Wait, how can I get rid of google auth pop-ups? I got Ublock but they still come up whenever I go to a reddit page.

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Please unblock challenges.cloudflare.com to proceed
(grumble, unblock, reload)

Verify you are human
(click)

...spin...spin......spin...
Verify you are human
(click)

...spin...spin......spin...
Verify you are human
(click)

...spin...spin......spin...
Verify you are human
(click)

...spin...spin......spin...
Verify you are human
(click)

...spin...spin......spin...

[–] jaaaardvark@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Privacy Pass will generate a number of random nonces that will be used as tokens

British people making a double take

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago

Interesting. A quick look at the description makes me think it could help with the inconvenience problem, but probably not with the allowing javascript problem. In any case, I'll have to take a closer look. Thanks for the link.

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[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Visiting the corpse of Twitter was your first mistake

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[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Did someone say... cookies?

I can just tell that whenever Twitter's user interface has weak attempts at humour, it was put there during the previous ownership, and that just makes me sad.

Like when you delete your account the final message says "#Goodbye", I was tearing up, thinking, like, shit, Musk really fucked everything up, did he?

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

I just set all the twitter and meta domains to localhost in my hosts file; no accidental clicks that go through for me :)

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

I've become quite picky about what sites I visit because of this, and it's why I don't like opening links. I know you can block this crap, but it's seldom worth the effort.

[–] Mio@feddit.nu 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The different popups just show how bad design the web is today.

Ask cookie question is required.

Login? Always create an account and proceed with all signup questions.

Agreement? Read them 1 hour until you have understood everything.

Webbrowser: can I get your location? And please the mic and video too!

Finally, don't forget the ads!

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Ask cookie question is required.

Thank the European bureaucrats that don't understand technology.

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[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Agreement? Read them 1 hour until you have understood everything.

I one time for fun (cause I'm insane) read the entire Windows license agreement, MSA (Microsoft Services Agreement), and privacy policy. It took me 1 hour and 45 minutes, I timed it.

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[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Never thought I'd miss frames. Though really, I always why exactly why they got dogpiled into nonexistence. Formatting issues?

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A porn site a friend of mine sometimes visits pops up a "sign in with Google" banner when you visit without annoyance blocker, and a "like this on Facebook" when you open a video.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Found Ted Cruz's fediverse account?

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