When is the industry going to recognize that the camera needs to be flush with the back?
This is ridiculous
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Give it a few more years. At this rate, by 2028, the entire back of the phone will be camera bump and you'll be able to lay it down on a flat surface at last.
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Wow those camera bumps look so ugly. They had a nice look in the previous generations
I have the 8 and I find it so frustrating. It makes the phone uncomfortable to hold and pocket
I hate the bumps. The camera in the 4a/5 generation was fine. Hate the new look and feel but had to upgrade because of security updates and not wanting to custom rom because I value NFC payments too much.
And There's some dumbass sack of cartilage that thinks we bought these phone because the aesthetic elevated them over the competition when really we bought them despite them not being designed with human hands in mind
I hate the camera bumps. Just make the entire phone the same thickness and - hey! This is crazy, but maybe then you could then add a bit more structural integrity and put a bigger battery and a SD card slot and a headphone jack in there as well.
Honestly, I'd be fine with a less substantial camera and a more substantial battery. The "a" models should have thinner cameras and thicker batteries. Oh, and give the back some texture so I don't drop it; I have a case, so that's not a hard requirement.
I would think the camera bar would make holding the phone easier, is that not the case? I have a note 20 ultra and I find cases with horizontal camera cover sliders significantly more comfortable to hold than those that try to make the camera bump less noticeable
I really like the camera bar, and definitely makes it easier to hold
For me it's not harder to hold, but it does seem to catch on things periodically. I honestly don't care much about the camera, and it taking up so much space is annoying. My old phone was pretty much flush (Moto G Power), and the main reason I went with the Pixel is the longer software support and compatibility with GrapheneOS. If a bumpless phone existed that met those two criteria, I would get that instead of the Pixel.
It's not a deal breaker, but I do find it a little annoying.
It would if it weren't a sharp corner... I got the pop socket to keep my fingers away from the bump
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Do you use the phone without a protective case? I find that most cases are designed so that the bump is flush with the back of the case.
That being said, I prefer thicker cases like the Otterbox oder Spigen Tough whatever series, so I could see how such a case would be "too much" for someone.
I have both an otter box and a spigen to try to make the bump more comfortable. The otter box is better. The bump still sits so proud so as to be annoying
I wish mine was. I use the Spigen Liquid Air, which is a pretty great case, but it doesn't solve the bump issue. I prefer thinner cases, and I specifically avoided the Pro because it's too big, and a big case would kill a large part of why I got the non-Pro model.
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They should go back to Pixel 2 design.
I had a pixel 3a I really liked back in the day. All I want, though, in the world, is a reasonably sized smartphone with decent specs and good hardware security. It bothers me that you have to pick 2/3
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If you use a case like most people do it makes sense.
Not if it's just a silicone case, it's not thick enough to compensate for the camera hump.
Source: the phone in my hands
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Tech reviews are a corrupt mess and can seldom be trusted.
Also these days it's all about rushing content and pandering to the lowest common denominator. Though pop tech channels were always this way. I stumbled on Unbox Therapy lately and it's so blatant that it almost feels illegal.
I mentioned this in another thread, but this only applies to their "Team Pixel" ambassador program. Those aren't actual reviewers, they're contracted by Google's PR firm, specifically to promote their product line. They're not coming after MKBHD and the likes with this. This is just part of their sponsorship agreement.
Worst case scenario in this situation is a few lifestyle vloggers will stop getting free phones.
The second half of the article goes into that a bit. Seems like some reviewers were also grouped into that program before, and the terms weren't like this before.
The Verge spoke with other independent reviewers and freelance tech journalists who say that they were grouped into the Team Pixel program for review units in the past. For those in the latter group, the new stipulation is a threat to their integrity and livelihood. Matlock says he’s since quit the Team Pixel program over the new terms.
YouTuber Kevin Nether, who runs The Tech Ninja channel, also says the clause led him to quit the Team Pixel program. “As someone who reviews technology for a living, I work with many brands. To be cornered into using one product — that doesn’t work for me, and that’s nothing I want to participate in.”
Nether echoes that he’s never seen this kind of stipulation in previous Team Pixel surveys. Usually, he says, the survey gauges a creator’s interest in various topics, like sports or fashion, to identify areas for collaboration. In the past, he says he’s made it clear to Team Pixel representatives that outside an obligatory post, he will review the device as normal. Nether also says this exclusivity term is atypical. Usually, when brands demand exclusivity from creators or brand ambassadors, they’ll offer payment, have clear disclosure rules, and have limited timelines.
Either Google changed the focus of the program, or the intent wasn't clear enough in previous years
Either Google changed the focus of the program, or the intent wasn't clear enough in previous years
I dunno, I got invited to it and I read through the application forms, which looked very similar to the ones they're posting screenshots of now. Back when I first looked at it a few years ago, it seemed pretty clear that the whole deal was "we'll give you free phones if you advertise us to your community". The application process focused very heavily on determining what sort of following the applicant has, how receptive they are to calls to action, etc.
As far as I can tell, the only thing that's changed is that Google is saying the quiet part out loud, which I would imagine is because a member likely bad-mouthed the product and raised a stink about getting cut off from the freebies. Not to sound victim-blamey, but if anybody in this programed was disillusioned into thinking it was anything short of "be our unpaid advertising monkeys", then they must not have even taken a cursory glance at the description before signing up.
Thank you for sharing that information.
Then it really does seems like some reviewers were just entering the grey zone willingly, to get phones intended for advertisements and used them for reviews anyway.
Click bait title for sure.
Content Creators.... Aren't all of those sucking Googles tits by spending their lives on YouTube anyway?
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The only reason I am buying Pixel devices is the amazing third party os / rom support (especially GrapheneOS).
Same. I don't care about the camera or AI features, the speakers could be louder, and a few other nitpicks, but it supports GrapheneOS, has a long SW support cycle, and has some great security hardware, so I bought one. I actually kind of prefer my older, crappy Moto phone in some ways, but I'm unwilling to use an insecure device, and ROMs aren't supported (well, I guess I could sign an abusive agreement).
So yeah, Pixel wins for me because of GOS and longer SW support. That's honestly it.
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Hey Google, this makes me not want a Pixel. I will however accept a large $um to cea$e $haring that $entiment.
Also that whole channel is hilarious
That could be me...I don't know anyone else with a pixel.
I know a few people (including myself) who use pixel. They're pretty moderately priced (compared to iphones) and the functionality is nice. Also, they have the longest Android suppoet.
Not many complaints on my side either. I just wanted a phone without nonsense installed. It's not quite as customisable as I may want (I can't get rid of some pre installed applications, but yeah.
Did you get it through your carrier? They add extra bloat vs buying it unlocked
Google has done price increases the last 2 or 3 years, so they no longer have a price advantage. Samsung also has the same 7 year support window.
Yeah but samsung is bloatware locked down garbage. You can put a custom os on pixels
I don't like that this is the way things are (in relation to influencers) but it seems reasonable to me that if you sign up to shill for a company, you should be expected to shill for the company.
While this is true it should come with the caveat that it is basically reduced to... Advertising.
The Option to install Graphene OS onto the Pixel do be a very good argument for it.
The Option to install Graphene OS onto the Pixel do be a very good argument for it.
GOS is still not for everyone. Stop shilling.
So just because my car has the ability to tow a trailer it is bad? The pixel gives everyone that wants to the possibility to install a custom ROM, which is great because not every phone allows this.
Yeah that's what has put me off getting a new Samsung phone as a free upgrade even though they have better specs. They all have the stupid Snapdragon processors.
I think next year will be the time when I buy a new phone too and I'm also looking to get a pixel. I will devinetively not buy a new one but maybe a refurbished one.
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So because it's not literally for everyone, nobody can share an opinion about it?
Weird take.
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Wonder if Mr. Mobile caved too....
From what I've read, it's those who are "#teampixel" which he doesn't seem to be no longer part of the program.
Give his recent video a watch and decide whether he's caved or not - i don't think it's as plain as mkbhf
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