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It feels dirty to agree with an ISP on something. But even the worst corporations are on the right side of something from time to time I suppose.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago (14 children)

Internet shutoffs should require a court order. Not some emails that are "this person did a bad 🥺🥺🥺 no proof but can you please take our word for it 🥺🥺🥺🥺"

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Internet shutoffs shouldn't be a thing, outside of non-payment or legitimate abuse. If I do something illegal, they should have to sue me, not shut off my internet.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, they don't disconnect a criminals phone service because they committed a crime and made a phone call. It makes no damned sense.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

Actually, that's been done several times over the decades. As well as banning computer access. The guy caught hacking into the fbi gets his mouse and keyboard taken away.

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[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (6 children)

They’re 100% only doing this for money, but still, nice to see them in the right for once.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Sometimes people do the right thing for the wrong reasons.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 points 5 months ago

or achieved unsuccessfully?

i cant decide

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Something something broken clock

[–] sibannac@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

If you disconnect them you can charge them fees

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

A lot of it is the sheer bureaucracy of chasing down actual pirates and weeding them from people who just happen to be on the same IP address.

If one guy visiting an apartment block downloads a torrent from a public connection, what is ATT supposed to do? Shut down Internet to the entire building?

This is an undue burden for ISPs, even if the content isn't living in a gray zone of legality.

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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 0 points 5 months ago

Ohh for sure, they know that if they get rid of the pirates, they'd lose half their customer base and will struggle to pay the CEOs bonus.

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[–] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Think it's because they know the people pirating are the people paying for unlimited?

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Meanwhile, VPN providers be like "come on download stuff 😉😉😉", wouldn't that be a much easier case for them to prove willful disregard for piracy?

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Well,

a) even the labels and studios pirate stuff that isn't theirs. They don't really believe what they preach.

b) All that content they produce involves unethical treatment of the actual creators and technical staff who are under-compensated, and often lose all rights to their own creative work. and

c) regional blocks are just marketing bullshit, and is the primary thing VPNs advertise they'll circumvent for you.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (12 children)

A day is going to come when the VPNs are going to be targeted for regulation.

It's only a matter of time before someone shoots up a school with a 3D printed gun or Epstein's a terabyte of child porn to a Senator's office or some other silly bullshit, and then VPNs will become the whipping boy for our litany of problems.

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[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Yeah, but ISPs are rich and VPN providers are not. The most recent numbers I can find for Cox (2020) show $12.6 billion in revenue.

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[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

This is capitalism 101: whatever makes the most money is what they support. It doesn't matter who is hurt (or not hurt), or what is right/wrong. As long as they can make more money than they are losing by lawsuits, they will keep doing this. If they can avoid doing anything at all and not get sued while getting paid by customers, that's even better.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why should ISP lose revenue enforcing laws for another corpos benefit?

If media industry was serious, they should pay for it 🫢

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[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Absolutely the correct stance, nothing dirty about it. At this point, for better and for worse, the Internet is a basic necessity. Imagine having your water turned off because you threw water balloons at your neighbour.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not water baloons, but some companies will cut off your water if you're sharing it with a neighbor. (especially if that neighbor had their water cut off for not paying a bill)

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Which is absolutely ridiculous since you are paying for the water that you are sharing.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Garbage collection services dislike when people throw their garbage in neighbor's cans even when the neighbor is paying for the larger can (e.g. the disposal volume being used). This has led to some garbage distribution piracy alongside recycling collection crews.

In case you wanted some cyberpunk dystopia in your cyberpunk dystopia.

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Or Nestle asked your water utility to disconnect your service because you're drinking free water instead of purchasing theirs. Not a direct correlation but closer.

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[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I was thinking, imagine the media companies demand the power company turn off your power because you downloaded a pirated movie. Or gas stations stop selling gas to you because you speed.

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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Even a broken 12-hr analog clock is right twice a day

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[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Can't wait to find out which industry benefits the SCOTUS justices more.

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