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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Looking over the wikipedia page on this mushroom and all the similar, very edible ones...Yeah I'm never foraging mushrooms.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Mushroom foraging can be safe, but the rules are:

  • Always learn from a local guide first. It's not transferable to other regions. Which makes books a bad way to do it, and the internet a horrible way.

  • You don't rule out dangerous mushrooms, you identify a specific edible mushroom.

  • Never trust a little white mushroom.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

chanterelles are pretty safe to forage if they grow near you.

they are very distinct looking.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are so goddamned good, I highly recommend looking around white oak trees by carefully clearing away the leaf litter a few days after it rains. They can't really be bought in stores and when they do show up they're like $50 a pound because you can't really farm them as they have a symbiotic relationship with only certain trees and are very vulnerable to other fungus like mold.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Where I live (mountainous region in Austria) they are everywhere. I just go hiking for a bit so I'm at not too frequented spots and then I can just pick as many as I need, often the floor nearly is more yellow than brown on certain spots.

We don't have white oaks here but they typically grow in needle forests.

(And we call them Eierschwammerl = egg mushrooms, to explain my previous comment, I just think that sounds much nicer than chanterelles)

Image of a typical spot, took it a month ago ^

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Amanita bisporigera, or the aptly named eastern North American destroying angel, if anyone's wondering.

From Wikipedia:

The principal amatoxin, α-amanitin, is readily absorbed across the intestine, and 60% of the absorbed toxin is excreted into bile and undergoes enterohepatic circulation; the kidneys clear the remaining 40%. The toxin inhibits the enzyme RNA polymerase II, thereby interfering with DNA transcription, which suppresses RNA production and protein synthesis. This causes cellular necrosis, especially in cells which are initially exposed and have rapid rates of protein synthesis. This process results in severe acute liver dysfunction and, ultimately, liver failure.

I could not confirm that it causes liquefactive necrosis of the liver specifically, however. I wouldn't doubt it, but I couldn't confirm it.

Edit: I should clarify, I got this from the original thread on Bluesky, not my own identification.

[–] mononomi@feddit.nl 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Which mushroom is it then? 😱

[–] fox@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

Eastern North American Destroying Angel. Half a mushroom is enough to completely destroy your liver and symptoms show up too late to do anything about them

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

No joking around when it came to naming it.

[–] lol_idk@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Technically it's still edible

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Don't tempt me with a good time.

[–] booty@hexbear.net 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You'd have to use a very strange definition of edible. For something to be edible it does not only need to be able to fit down your throat, it has to be capable of nourishing you without harming you. You can swallow paper and it won't harm you, but it also can't nourish you and is thus inedible. You can eat this mushroom and it'll probably provide some kind of nourishment, but then it will swiftly kill you and thus it is inedible.

I would accept a definition of edible which includes things you can't digest. For example, gold can also be a food additive referred to by the code E175. Can't digest it, but it doesn't hurt you. So I could accept someone referring to gold as edible. But I think the barest, most universal element of something being edible is that it doesn't kill you. If literal deadly poison is considered edible one must wonder what the word "edible" is even supposed to mean.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Jimmy Neutron "sodium chloride" ass reply, "everything is edible at least once" is a common joke that works precisely because words' definitions are not rigid

Edit: I think it's best to leave this comment up as I originally wrote it, but I'm also going to go on the record to say that I could've and should've phrased this a lot more cordially.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

A bollard isn't edible, even once.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

ooh, amanita

[–] booty@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

joker-shopping i didnt even consider that this AI shit was going to claim to be able to ID mushrooms

ok ive been a little skeptical of the idea so far but now im fully convinced. this dumb ai shit is going to get people killed. like straight up more than one person is going to die because of these upjumped autocorrects masquerading as intelligence. and no one is going to be held responsible.

[–] Devdogg@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

There are old mushroom foragers and then there are bold ones. There are no bold, old mushroom foragers.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My fucked up brain goes like, "woah, I wonder what death tastes like."

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Saute in a pan with butter and garlic. Death will taste fabulous.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Little salt, little pepper. /~~chef's~~death's kiss

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

That's cheating. Anything will taste great with butter and garlic.