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!piracy@lemmy.ml has also been blocked from lemmy.world.
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Lemmy.world has released an official response.
To be honest, it's not a huge deal. The copyright cartel can easily send dmca requests to your isp just for having text guidelines. Not everyone has the bandwidth or energy to deal with stuff like that.
I just wish this wasn't done at the request of a transphobic racist who just did it to get back at is for getting banned for making transphobic and racist communities in this instance.
Keep it up db0, a lot of us across the fediverse appreciate what you've built!
Don't need lemmy world anyways. This is the most based instance on the entire fediverse. Their loss.
One of the most popular instance. This is why federation is necessary and people should create accounts in different servers instead of pulling everyone to one server calling it tge "official" or "main" server
Yeah, they fell for the fucking troll. Excuse my french.
I think this is better tbh, I personally don't like it when piracy forums/sites/whatever piracy related thing goes too mainstream. Maybe it's gatekeeping, I don't know, I just don't want another Z-Library incident.
Either way, they probably aren't even against piracy, they're probably just lazy and don't want to deal with any of the issues they could potentially face down the line.
Edit - grammar
Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They're down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn't fit their narrow, sanitized world views. It's also one of the most recommended Lemmy's with more new users going there than anywhere else. I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain. Especially if this domain makes as many boneheaded decisions as lemmy.world
I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain.
I agree, but 50% is still better than 100%. I definitely appreciate that I'm reading about this while being totally unaffected personally rather than just disappearing entirely like what happens with a banned subreddit.
We badly need Lemmy clients that can merge instances even if they're defederated, as well as the other way around, filter out entire instances even if your instance won't defederate from them. Letting instance owners dictate what you can or cannot see is not the way.
There are clients that will do the former (eg. Liftoff) but I'm not aware of any that will do the latter. I don't understand why, it can't be that hard to filter users and communities by instance.
Hi Lemm.ee. Bye lemmy.world.
The guy who started this whole thing by asking lemmy.world admins to defederate with lemmy.dbzer0.com is a lemm.ee account and he has asked lemm.ee to take similar action
Doesn't matter who started it, all that matters is how the admins handle it. If all it takes is a new user asking for a community or instance to be blocked/de-federated and it just happens no questions asked, the admin in charge are to blame, not the person for asking.
I'm pretty certain the lemm.ee dev won't block it. Time will tell.
I'll tell ya a couple of three things, my estimation of Lemmy.world as a general-purpose instance just fucking plummeted.
Made the switch from lemmy.world the other day due to this. Not necessarily because of who they defederated/blocked, but because this happens with little/no consultation or communication with the user base. The frequency of it became frustrating; who knows what other community/instance will be blocked on a whim next?
I appreciate that the LW admins do this as a hobby in their free time, but things like this could be approached in a better way, or at the very least with better communication. I found out about this via a post in /c/mildlyinfuriating, which in itself was mildly infuriating lol.
Migrated to this instance, and I can choose via Connect which instances or communities I want to see. Should have done this sooner.
Its fair enough. They gotta protect their ass.
I just logged into a user made on this instance. Problem solved. And lemmy.world has had a ton of downtime anyway. Always trouble loading comments and often trouble loading posts
That’s funny because lemmy.world has been blocking every community for hours on end multiple times a week on a seemingly regular basis. Their shits broke.
Hello all. First post here. Moved over from lemmy.world because of this.
And just like that I learned about a Steam Deck piracy community.
Something something Streisand Effect.
TBF it doesn't seem like they were against piracy per se, they just wanted to avoid potential liability. That said, I've still moved on to another instance.
Lemmy.world overtook beehaw and .ml because they promised to not go bonkers with power tripping defederation. Now they're beehaw but with far more power over lemmy. Fuck that instance.
A transphobic troll got spanked and then retaliated with that post and the .world admins were stupid enough to blindly follow the directions of an alt-right turd.
Just saying.
Not just transphobic but racist as well and going by the posted pebbleyeet memes probably also fascist. Sad that the lemmy.world admins took the bait especially after dealing with constant ddos themselves for kicking off their own trolls
Thanks to their post I discovered !steamdeckpirates and a second piracy community.
Moved over here from .world. kthxbai!
This feels like an obvious bullshit cop-out reason to defederate against a specific community that they don't like for whatever silly reason they can't reveal to the public.
Never have I seen an actual link to content survive very long on lemmy.ml or dbzer0.com. Just like the good old /r/Piracy we discuss piracy, but we do not directly facilitate it.
Someone please slap the back of their heads repeatedly and aggressively with these facts. This excuse is disingenuous as hell.
If you are a user of lemmy.world; RUN. NOW! Find a new instance. Switch away from them before they reach terminal enshitification velocity.
enshitification
You're already misusing our cool new word. Cut it out.
Oh no... Anyway
.world has already become a shithole echo chamber. Good thing lemmy's technology can not really let it take over the platform as a whole like it did with reddit.
I've been liking .zip so far.
I find funny that we all are raging about this dumb move, and lemmy.world ppl can't because of the blocking lol.
We were notified through a c/Mildly Infuriating post. True pirates are used to having to make some effort to get their content!
federation works as intended
Dumb mfs: FUcK lEmMy.wOrld pOwEr tRipers rreEEeE
Guess which is the reddit clone.
Good to know just so I know to go to an instance that doesn't block this community. I don't blame .world for being careful. This is indeed the Fediverse working as intended.
Nothing of value is lost. 😂
The best part is lemmy.world notified its users of this change on...discord. lol
Great social media site, where you notify end users of major changes on another platform entirely.
The legal environment around Lemmy is tenuous at best. Content and / or actions that are legal in one nation are illegal in others but Lemmy caches that content on every federated instance with active users.
To illustrate the complexity involved consider a Mexican user on a Lemmy instance located in Germany that visits exploding heads to view Nazi content. Which nations laws are controlling?
What about when an Australian user on a Finnish Lemmy instance who accesses something like fauxbait from lemmynsfw.com? Those images are arguably illegal in Australia but who has liability here? The Australian user? The Finnish Lemmy instance? Lemmynsfw.com?
In both of those scenarios the User is one country with its own set of laws, the Users Host Instance and its content cache are in a 2nd country with a different set of laws, and the instance hosting the content is in 3rd country with yet another set of laws!
It's the same problem with digital piracy, who is legally liable when the law, and remember we don't even know whose laws apply, is breached? The User? Their Host Instance? The Content Host? All of them?
Legal lightening is absolutely going to strike a Lemmy instance soon and no sane instance operator wants to be the lightening rod.
Honestly, I'm ok with it. Piracy shouldn't be something that anyone can see. More something people find after looking for it. Yes there is the con to having less users but the more users we have the more risk we take on.
The real question in my mind is: how do we ensure the instance this community is on doesn't get shut down? Seems to me like c/piracy itself might be a legal target, and as far as I can tell, none of the instances are big enough to have legal teams to sheild it from legal threats
And this is why my main account is on the piracy instance.
lemmy.world is trash, it's brought in and hosts the worst parts of reddit I was hoping to avoid by moving to lemmy. Wish I could just block that whole instance.
I don't hold it against them. They have their hands full at the moment with DDOS attacks. The admins are barely able to keep the place running. The beauty of federation is that we can pick and choose where to sail from.
aaand a whole new me!
I'm a pirate at heart, yarr ;)