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Humans don't live that long. That's only about 1.5 million 30 min videos, which isn't a huge amount for a whole day's worth of scraping.

Something like that was a plot point in Black Mirror. In that case it was with consciousnesses.

Can relate, I watched the English patient once.

instead of focusing on their products and improving them for everyone, some shitty ceo is pushing their shitty ai agenda down everyones throat.

There's only a handful of video datasets and all of it is owned by Google through YouTube or big Hollywood companies like Disney and Netflix.

These companies are foaming at the mouth with rage thinking about what generative AI will do to their industry and how much it will help the currently non existant indie one. They will do whatever it takes to fence in the playbox and make sure they get to be the toll man.

This was never about AI getting to live or not, but who gets to own it. 404media is essentially a mouthpiece for these corporations, willingly or not, and the strengthening of copyright laws will not help the consumers or the small time creators. The only exception being laws that force copy left licenses onto models but that's not what is being pushed right now, as well as aocs Deepfake act which is well thought out imo.

Anyone should be permitted to train on YouTube and Netflix data, and Nvidia might even open source it in any case.

Obligatory fuck AI and the illeterate bros pushing it.

What kind of videos, though? A lot of such material is very far from being proper educational material that we show other people to really teach them much, let alone educate them well enough to be anywhere trustworthy. This is a very processed material, with years of preparation once you consider the prior education of the individuals involved in the creative process - think of the past experiences silently influencing them, their initial knowledge on the subject obtained from somewhat basic facts from school or otherwise, their misconceptions, iterations that nobody knows about, and many other things that we don't usually directly associate with the act of working on something like a video, but that eventually do dictate a lot of the decisions and opinions put into it.

It's one thing that the AI has no intelligence in it whatsoever, but the fact that it's being pumped with information and "knowledge" in basically the reverse order doesn't help it become any better.

On the other hand, the entire thing is not about making something that works well, but something that sells well. And then there's people putting too much faith into the thing and trusting it with way too much stuff than they should (which is also the case with a lot of other tech, though, admittedly).

Some things of today are so damn unexciting.

I feel like the amount of training data required for these AIs serves as a pretty compelling argument as to why these AIs are clearly nowhere near human intelligence. It shouldn't take thousands of human lifetimes of data to train an AI if it's truly near human-level intelligence. In fact, I think it's an argument for them not being intelligent whatsoever. With that much training data, everything that could be asked of them should be in the training data. And yet they still fail at any task not in their data.

Put simply; a human needs less than 1 lifetime of training data to be more intelligent than AI. If it hasn't already solved it, I don't think throwing more training data/compute at the problem will solve this.

Can we stop with this bullshit? Nobody will buy into it. WE DON’T WANT IT.

Properly following licensing, right?

I've just had a thought:

There's a little country where the way its leadership still hasn't been all voted out and put behind bars for life is that it constantly invents new subjects for discussion. Some outrageous, some showing them in good light, but the point is that everyone forgets the real bad things they've done (they are basically a collaborationist puppet government of a neighboring fascist country).

I wonder if it's today's world as a whole showing itself in that little country.

I've recently read an article seen on Lemmy, suggesting that the "AI" hype is the same. https://theluddite.org/#!post/ai-hype - found it. The conclusion is very important.

They are wasting enormous amounts of energy to make those "AI"s, collect training data and so on, to make oligopolized platforms and industries shittier and shittier.

But we are wasting our energy, which is much more limited, to track myriads of false targets. We are like an air defense system being saturated.

No one has ever won a war by sitting in defense. We must search for critical joints to attack.

Also no, voting for one of two candidates presented to you in some election is not that, neither is arguing for one of two sides in a discourse presented to you. There are better and worse choices there, but that's not what attack means.

So they use VMs to simulate user accounts, in future this will be blocked and whatever new AI startup is there won't have the option to do so. Competition blocked. Forever.