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I don't mean to be pessimistic, bit since most subreddits are only going dark for a couple days, the site will basically be back to normal soon. I wonder how many users here are only here because of temporary outrage and not because they actually prefer Lemmy. I'm curious about people's outlook on this situation.

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[–] TheGayDude@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

most subreddits are only going dark for a couple days Not true, most subreddits are going down for as long as it takes for the reddit admins to change their mind (AKA forever)

[–] sibe@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mostly everyone who will try kbin/lemmy as an alternative to Reddit. Unreal how bad the UI/UX is considering the time they've had to copy Reddit.

Lemmy

  • Posts are randomly added realtime when scrolling the main page making it unbearable
  • Subscribed/trending community list is a weird unaligned logo+text instead of a normal scrollable list

Kbin

  • How the fuck do you navigate to your subscribed "magazines"? The magazines tab just shows you list of everything and going under your subscriptions shows posts from every magazine I am subscribed to instead of letting me click on the specific magazine

"Fediverse"

  • Content propagation from other instances is slow(?) I want to subscribe to cs@kbin.social but beehaw still can't find it - maybe I don't understand it well enough and it's just a temporary issue
[–] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

your fediverse problem is because kbin.social had to temporarily defederate because its hardware couldn't keep up with demand

Not me. I love to live the pirate life and reddit aint so friendly to our kind. Also remember that people can use multiple "social medias". I think only a small group of people will become Lemmy exclusive users, and many Lemmy users would still be using reddit alongside lemmy, maybe not posting as much as they used to, but they will still browse reddit.

[–] dontforgetthat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'll be using both

[–] socialjusticewizard@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure there will be a huge downtick, but there's also people like me who heard about Lemmy because of Reddit but this is totally something I'd support. Now that I know it's here, I have a source for my cat videos and obscure video game recommendations, I don't really need the activity and tumult of Reddit. I'm sure there are dozens like me. Dozens.

[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you follow for cat videos?

[–] socialjusticewizard@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still sorting that out, thus far I have just assumed that there will be cat videos. It's basically one of the safest assumptions of the internet.

[–] korthrun@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://beehaw.org/c/animals it's not strictly cats, but it's been a pretty good start IMO.

[–] CannaVet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How many users here do you think are going to get bored and end up back on Reddit as soon as the blackout ends?

Most.

90% of the engagement I've seen regarding Lemmy is "Why isn't this Reddit and work exactly the same as Reddit? When WILL it work exactly the same as Reddit?"

I'm already seeing hostility a la "Well I guess we'll see if the devs LiStEn To ThIeR uSeRs" in regards to communities getting tied to a central authority, aka the thing this was explicitly designed to not do. I've been offloading my data and such to self hosted options for a few years now where I can anyway, so I'm down to stay, but I DO look forward to the end of the protest and the Reddit stans going home like nothing happened like they were always going to. > How many users here do you think are going to get bored and end up back on Reddit as soon as the blackout ends?

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[–] EtherCityRule@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

To be honest I came here because of the blackout. I intend to stay. I have already been more active here than in years lurking on Reddit!

[–] Q320@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We need to educate users and Reddit people to really understand how Lemmy works, and why it's good. People keep giving the email analogy but that may not be enough. I still see a lot of users asking if they need to have an account on every Lemmy instance. We need to explain simply that :

  • You can sub a community that is not local ;
  • There can be two community that are called the same but on different instance (ie: asklemmy@lemmy.ml and asklemmy@lemmy.world) ;
  • Same is for your username. We should also give tips on how to find an instance that is relevant for you and how to find communities.
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[–] hbar@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I started getting into Lemmy with the reddit API announcement like many others. if the RIF app shuts down I'm never going back, and even if it manages to stick around I probably will be done with reddit. I've committed to Lemmy at this point, I'm trying to build a pathfinder RPG community here, and I've been contributing to many other communities where I can.

[–] TiredSpider@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't even know there was a fediverse reddit alternative until the blackout, so that's why I'm here. But if I had known lemmy was a thing before now I would have moved earlier. If the communities here that interest me don't fizzle out I'll stay, I would guess a lot of others are in the same boat.

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[–] helovesblink182@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m optimistic, I signed up for lemmy.ml and it wasn’t available today due to so much traffic I guess… I found lemmy.world and another instance in a few seconds and have been trucking a long. This is coming from me who is not tech savvy inthe slightest. Lemmy is easy for me, and I struggle with learning curves. I deleted my Reddit accounts after a decade of using it, and I’m here for the ride. I use this on iPad, and the install webpage as app functions perfectly. It’s pretty darn beautiful actually

[–] Sektor@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No RiF, no old.reddit, no coming back.

I already know RIF is gone. I'm operating on the assumption that old.reddit will be gone soon.

Even with old.reddit, you still get karma bots and rampant native advertising and corporate bullshittery that I won't miss.

I'm ready to cast off reddit and forge ahead to the next platform, even if I know the journey will be a bit rocky at first.

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[–] Philius@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is not ready yet.

[–] Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If I had to guess, I would think that a disappointingly large amount of people will go back to normal reddit use, even if nothing changes. People hate changing their routine.

I had barely heard of Lemmy before any of this started, and many others have similar stories about that. The servers yesterday however, were super busy. That leads me to believe that there may be a lot of lurkers in addition to the new accounts.

In the long run, I feel like many of us will start using Lemmy a lot more often. This kind of reminds me of the death of a few other social media platforms. Over time, I think this community may continue to grow, and could become what reddit once was to digg. This time though, there's federation on the platform.

If Lemmy plays their hand right, they could easily top reddit overall within a few years, especially if reddit keeps treating their mods and communities poorly.

At this point, it's about principle. I would have been less angry at reddit if they just came out and said they were removing 3rd party apps. Instead, we got a sh*tshow with false accusations, lies, and ignorance. I say ignorance, because a lot of people have been complaining about the official apps accessibly options, yet reddit does nothing to help them. Moderators have been complaining about how the official app makes it very difficult to moderate, yet reddit still did nothing. Somehow though, they're awesome at plugging in as many ads as possible, and they are brilliant at eating excessive amounts of data.

Even if reddit comes back, I think I'm gone.

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[–] UtilitySink@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

This has been the push I’ve needed to leave. I hope to stay away. I spent too much time there doomscrolling and hope Lemmy’s format prevents me from that waste of my time.

[–] New_account@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

From June 14 to June 30, the RIF Android app will mostly work as normal providing access to most of the same subreddits I've been visiting for the past decade+. A few will shut down permanently, but other than that, it'll mostly be the same as before, so I'll probably use Reddit during that period.

However, effective July 1, that option disappears completely. If I want to continue using Reddit, I'll have to download an entirely different app and get used to an entirely different user interface providing an experience much worse than RIF. If I have to learn something brand new anyway, I may as well try an entirely different platform like Lemmy. No idea if I'll stick here long term or not, but the power of Reddit was the community. If the community migrates over here, I'm all for staying here. I suspect one of the Redsit alternatives will attract a critical mass of people at some point.

As every internet platform has shown, the enshittification is inevitable. Eventually, Lemmy too will become an unusable mess of ads and feature creep if/when enough money starts flowing in. However, I'm perfectly fine using the site for the next few years until that happens.

[–] MoreIronOre@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It would really help the adoption of Lemmy if we get a 'multisub'-idea, that Reddit uses, where a user could bind multiple instances' communities together, and make it appear as one community.

(So I can bind all similar instances into one).

Regardless, I won't be going back to Reddit. If I stick around Lemmy, that's kind of up to how I enjoy this platform & usability, but I can be quite stubborn with my 'morals'. Once a platform is done for me, it is done lmao.

[–] possibleHipster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going back.

The community search functions are next to useless, the fragmentation of communities makes it harder to manage, and the Jerboa app is infinitely worse than the Reddit main app

Even is Lemmy isn't right, why not have a look around and see if you can replace Reddit with something else, even if it's a mix of stuff.

This is the beginning of the enshittification of Reddit - it's no longer about providing a good user experience, it's about providing a good corporate experience. This means that the content will get worse and worse , and less and less relevant. Stage 3 is where Reddit fucks over the advertisers and starts making bank, and shortly after that with no users and no corporate support it starts to implode..

And then you will need to move off the platform.

Or - you could move off now. Lemmy is ok, the best for chatting. I've been using Imgur for memes but miss NSFW content, and Lemmy is also very NSFW unfriendly. So for me right now it's a bit of a mix.

I'm working on my own content aggregator with the features of Reddit, but in the end it's just for me if nobody gives a damn and that's ok

[–] mglap@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Every day, I open jerboa and see like 5x more communities with a lot of activity. If we can keep up this level of growth for another week or so, then i don't think I'll miss Reddit much. Especially if i really have to download the official app. On the other hand, if Reddit backs down at the last minute and agrees to allow third party apps, then i could see lemmy users going back to Reddit out of habit.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I will enjoy the last days that Infinity will be operational, after it gets shuttered I will participate more here. I might go back on reddit every now and then to see what r/okbuddychicanery is up to but that is it.

I have no use for the hot garbage official app otherwise.

[–] MDKAOD@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I hear you, but I'll tell you what. I haven't had a serious issue. There's been the occasional hiccup, but I've been on reddit for what 15 years or whatever, and lemmy is doing much better than reddit did in early years.

I'm here for the long haul, I enjoy this experience more.

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