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The Linux Mint team has just released Linux Mint 22, a new major version of the free Linux distribution. With Windows 10's end of support coming up quickly next year, at least some users may consider making the switch to Linux.

While there are other options, paying Microsoft for extended support or upgrading to Windows 11, these options are not available for all users or desirable.

Linux Mint 22 is a long-term service release. Means, it is supported until 2029. Unlike Microsoft, which made drastic changes to the system requirements of Windows 11 to lock out millions of devices from upgrading to the new version, Linux Mint will continue to work on older hardware, even after 2029.

Here are the core changes in Linux Mint 22:

  • Based on the new Ubuntu 24.04 package base.
  • Kernel version is 6.8.
  • Software Manager loads faster and has improved multi-threading.
  • Unverified Flatpaks are disabled by default.
  • Preinstalled Matrix Web App for using chat networks.
  • Improved language support removes any language not selected by the user after installation to save disk space.
  • Several under-the-hood changes that update libraries or software.
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[–] radivojevic@discuss.online 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tbf, most distros work on older hardware.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Eh, depends how much older. My daily is a Thinkpad x201, and while I love Linux Mint, every once in a while I get curious about other distros. However, as many times as I've tried, there's a bunch of distros whose LiveUSBs just won't boot (for example Pop! OS).

[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wish I could get an x201 with an identical form factor and keyboard, indicator lights, etc, but otherwise upgraded components (cpu/ram/display/ports). That is my dream.

I also have an x201, but it runs too warm and too noisy for me to keep up with it. I now have an M1 Macbook which I use Asahi Linux and macOS on with about a 50/50 split. But the x201 feels better in the hand and on the desk.

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[–] radivojevic@discuss.online 0 points 2 months ago

I think, realistically, anything up to 10 years ago can run most distros. Some better than others, of course, because of the DE load.

I’ve got kde neon on a 2013 MacBook Air and it’s great. I also have put Ubuntu budgie and SDesk on an old HP Chromebook with 4gb of ram. And, obviously the 16gb disk is crippling, but it runs better than expected haha.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Linux Mint was my gateway drug to linux. It's simple and powerful! Now I'm a happy KDE user, but you never forget the first love

[–] radivojevic@discuss.online 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (13 children)

It really is. I don't get the love for the tabletish gnome interface everyone is using.

I get why some people like it, for sure. I'm just surprised so many "power users" seem to.

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[–] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 0 points 2 months ago

I use mint btw 🌿

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I made the switch to mint a few months ago. Its astounding to me just how slowly windows boots and I never noticed until I made the switch.

You got me, Lemmy. I caught the Linux from you and I can't go back.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Mint boots SHOCKINGLY fast, like sub 2 seconds, on a couple of systems I have. Its basically as fast as “booting” one of my old Commodore computers!

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

<2 seconds from powered off to being able to start to open e.g. a web browser?

If so that is indeed truly shocking. Curious what your stopwatch says from powered off to a homepage loaded ready to use.

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[–] Liz@midwest.social 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Booting from a full power off state?

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[–] amanda@aggregatet.org 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Did not see “faster than Commodore 64!” coming!

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[–] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Too bad Linux can’t run all my games yet. If it could I’d switch in a heart beat

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Let me preach you the gospel of

bazzite.gg

A user friendly, steam OS like distro specifically made for gaming. About as difficult to set up as a new smartphone, and comes with all the goods needed for gaming preinstalled, like steam, wine (lutris), and various other compatibility features.

It is also an immutable distro, which essentially means you can't break your system*. If you mess something up you can simply roll back to an earlier configuration.

*you certainly still can, but you would have to actively try

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (13 children)

Tried it this week, video signal would cut off as soon as there was a tiny bit of load on the GPU (like intro videos in a game would be too much)... I'll have to experiment some more but you can't blame people for using the option that just works when switching OS probably means troubleshooting for tens of hours...

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[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 0 points 2 months ago

I installed Bazzite earlier this month as a dual boot and have been very happy with it. A lot of stuff just worked on bootup, haven't installed a single driver, and that's including my AMD GPU, just installed a game, plugged in my controller, and it played. Most games seem to run better than Windows. Fullscreen mode is a lot less annoying to tab out of - there isn't the annoying momentary black screen, tab just happens. OBS seems to finally be on the level of Windows performance, although some of my favorite extensions are Windows-only. That's been something of an annoyance, a lot of stuff is Windows-only, but usually if I Google "[program] Linux" I'll get a workaround or substitute. I still leave Windows installed because of anti-cheat nonsense, but I rarely boot into Windows anymore.

Kind of meandering but that's my experience so far. Overall pretty satisfied.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Which of your games doesn't work? Multiplayer?

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Ive been willing to skip the like 2% of games I have that won't play on it, personally.

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[–] HC4L@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just switched after seeing how much of my Steam library I could play on my Deck. Just have to switch back for BF5 sometimes and I don't miss Windows at all. Very nice experience.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

How much does it play and what about a GPU in terms of compatibility?

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

If it runs on proton it runs on mint

The only issues I've had are the companies who refuse to enable the Linux versions of their Anti-Cheat, everything else has run and run better than Windows

I use a 2080ti and even with that negative it only took about 15 minutes of fiddling to get my GPU working just fine in everything

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My old Microsoft Surface is running much better now that it's running Linux Mint.

[–] vikingtons@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm curious about these, do the surfaces still require the use of (or benefit from) custom kernels?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

AFAIK they still benefit from custom kernels, but don't require them. I believe support continues to make it into master, so it likely won't be the case forever.

[–] vikingtons@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

excellent, glad to hear

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

Oh, neat, I installed Mint on my home machine literally 3 days ago without knowing Mint 22 was coming. Time to upgrade lmao

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I revived a 15 year old laptop by installing Linux Mint on it (and replacing the hard drive for an old SSD I had kicking around). It does everything a modern laptop would do except play new games now.

[–] PostingInPublic@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I switched my main gaming computer to Mint after testing it on a laptop. Being away from Windows is awesome. You know how everything always wants your attention on Windows? Your antivirus proudly announces its existence. Windows wants to know if it should remove some printers? Some PDF software needs updated RIGHT NOW. There's a license change please acknowledge this 20 page document. Animated attention grabbing everywhere. I always think FUCK OFF when presented with this bullshit.

You know what - Mint doesn't do that. I've not been internally shouting at my own computer since I went that way.

It is serene.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I like the way Linux handles updating software better.

On Windows, every app is installed separately so each app is internally responsible for its own updates. So you sit down to do some work, open up your productivity software and "Autodobe After360 requires an update to continue. [Yes] [Yes]" This isn't impossible on Linux but it happens much less often.

As you say it doesn't throw itself under your wheels as often as Windows does.

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[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 0 points 2 months ago (17 children)

How has your gaming journey been so far? Games and general programs are the main reason why in still on Windows

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[–] cheeseburger@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mint is mint! I'm using Debian Edition of Mint; according to the Mint forums the package backports for LMDE6 will be worked on after everything with LM22 is complete, and LMDE7 is for when a new Debian comes out.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Supported until 2029 (so 5 years) vs 10 years for Windows 10 + 3 years with ESU

Will continue working on older hardware after 2029... So does Windows 10 after the end of support?

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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Mint is so user friendly

[–] Nugget@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I tried Linux Mint on my old XPS laptop and the battery life is, unfortunately, a nonstarter for me. It lasts about 2 hours running Linux versus up to six on Windows (thanks to battery settings). It also doesn't hibernate properly. I wish it had worked for me

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It may be worth doing more distro hoping. It sometimes takes a few to get it right for your needs/use case.

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

Zorin is another sexy option.

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[–] CMahaff@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know for me, at least with gnome, toggling between performance, balanced, and battery saver modes dramatically changes my battery life on Ubuntu, so I have to toggle it manually to not drain my battery life if it's mostly sitting there. I don't know if Mint is the same, but just throwing out the "obvious" for anyone else running Linux on a laptop.

[–] davetansley@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

For some reason, Mint doesn't provide access to the power profiles out of the box... no idea why. I just install a Cinnamon applet called "Power Profiles" and it gives me the same systray switcher as Fedora.

Fresh install of Mint was giving me about 2 hours battery life. By switching to Power Saver profile, I can get up to about 6-8 hours. I mostly only need to go to Balanced or Performance when gaming.

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[–] plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Just did a timeshift then upgraded and it went perfectly. Had to disable a ppa but the upgrader even did that for me.

I only recently came over from Windows and am very impressed - most Windows upgrades go less smoothly than this.

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[–] Kory@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

Thank you Mint team, you rock!

[–] davetansley@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Switched to Linux Mint about three years ago after being unable to take my perfectly good laptop from W10 to W11. Dual boot firstly, quickly becoming entirely Mint. It just worked. It was the first Linux distro I'd tried in about 20 years that I didn't mess up in a week or so.

Recently bought a new laptop and decided to distro hop. Tried various flavours of Fedora, and a few others, but ultimately came back to Mint. None of the others worked quite as well as Mint does for me (though I really liked KDE Plasma, and Gnome surprised me once I finally discovered extensions!)

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[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Linux Mint is just great :)

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Agreed. I managed to get my grandpa onto Linux using Mint on his old computer. He said the interface resembled classic Windows and was up and running in less than five minutes. I just had to show him how to use the software manager and that's it.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

It's also got so many features that just make sense, like extending to separate monitors being automated, or when you download multiple files they're automatically zipped to conserve space.

I did love Mint.

I got my aunt's laptop on Mint. Was unusable with Win 10, like click the start button, wait 4 minutes and then the start menu opens. Took right to it, especially since she's been using an Android tablet for just about everything so she knew what an app store was. "Linux calls it a software manager" was all the training required.

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