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Israel parliament votes to label UN relief agency a terror organisation (www.middleeastmonitor.com)

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The Israeli parliament gave preliminary approval on Monday to a bill that declares the main United Nations relief organisation for Palestinians a terrorist organisation and proposes to sever relations with the body, Reuters reports.

The vote against the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA) is the latest step in an Israeli push against the Agency, which Israeli leaders have accused of collaborating with the Hamas Movement in Gaza.

Israel has said hundreds of UNRWA staff are members of terrorist groups, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, but has yet to provide evidence to a UN-appointed review.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 85 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Ah, the relief agency that was thoroughly proven not to be a terrorist organization last time Israel tried this, a few months ago. I guess they just need some way to make sure Palestinians aren't saved from starvation, thirst and disease.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And carpet bombing. Now it's your time to speak, Kamala. What do you have to say about this?

[–] HerrVorragend@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

'Crickets' is the best Americans can hope for, to be fair.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago

Crickets would be immense improvement to arming and supporting a genocide.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She was part of the Biden regime so she is guilty of genocide just like Joe.

[–] Waveform@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago

It's like they're trying to get ahead of the narrative to deceive future historians... I just hope someone with the knowledge and means is making physical records of all this. Written in silica, or something.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Damn, feeding the hungry and taking care of the deprived is now an act of terrorism.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Food Not Bombs knows that isn't new, sadly.

[–] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Food not Bombs

It's all a simple misunderstanding really. You see the Israelis read from right to left.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Nice

[+] divergency@scribe.disroot.org -20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

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[–] filister@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You do realise how racist you sound right now, right? Are you calling more than 2 million people, terrorists?

What about the kids, the newly born babies, are they also terrorists and deserve to die and/or starve? What happened with the idea of everyone being innocent until proven otherwise.

And how many civilians have Israel and Palestinians killed over the years? Or let's simplify the questions, how many of those are below 16?

You can simply watch any documentary dedicated on the life of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank, read any human rights groups that is not affiliated with Israel what they think about the conditions in those two territories. Open Wikipedia and read the articles on the subject, etc. The ICJ just proclaimed that what is doing Israel in the West bank and Gaza equates to apartheid.

Shall I also remind you that before their independence there were Jewish resistance fighters who were also branded terrorists by the authorities back then and the same fraction became the backbone of the IDF.

[–] superminerJG@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

War is waged between governments and organizations. The death of civilians is an unavoidable side effect.

I think both Israel and Hamas need to calm tf down so that they can actually negotiate peace terms; but that ain't happening so long as people send either side weapons.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Are we living in a parallel reality? Didn't you see how Israel deliberately killed their own hostages, shirtless with hands in the air, or the humanitarian workers, in a clearly marked vehicle, whose route has been communicated beforehand via official channels.

Do you truly believe that the IDF really cares about the civilian lives of Palestinians? Have you heard of anyone from IDF being convicted for the unlawful killing of civilians in Gaza? Nope? All of this coming from the most moral army in the world /s

And last thing I heard was that Israel wasn't willing to agree to their own ceasefire terms and are actively undermining the negotiations. Bibi knows he will be a toast if he stops the war and most likely will be criminally persecuted on corruption charges and there is a chance he also ends up behind bars.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 24 points 2 months ago

bunch of clowns.

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I know the UN is not NATO but an attack on an arm of the UN should be an attack on all.

It's past time the world started treating Israel like they treat Russia.

[–] kirbowo808@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 2 months ago

Damn, didn’t know having human decency meant now you’re a crooked, spineless, evil cretin.

[–] rozodru@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

Israel looking at Nazi Germany and saying "well...I mean it did work on us so..."

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Israel is the most fascist state in existence. Israel is The Fifth Reich.

[–] superminerJG@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What was the Fourth Reich?

[–] Disaster@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

A Reichtangle, obviously.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -4 points 2 months ago

This is left as an exercise for the reader.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

Let's please remember Turkey, Azerbaijan, China, Pakistan and, ahem, all big European nations

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ironic isn't? The victims of fascism are now the fascists.

[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Israel was never a victim of fascism.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Pot calling the kettle black.

[+] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works -13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-to-seek-to-end-unrwa-gaza-activities-after-staffers-fired-for-oct-7-involvement/

For those curious about the allegations against about 10% on UNRWA.

[–] Majestic@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No one but genocide loving zionists wants to hear the lying screeds of a genocidal, racist, apartheid regime. I care as much to read that as a copy of the latest "Jewish crimes" written by Nazi magazines in the 1930s.

[+] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works -12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's some really strong statements. Speaking for myself I don't identify as a genocide loving Zionist.

For what it's worth the article is really dry and cites independent sources, and has quotes from UN officials that say that UNRWA workers were removed. A full internal investigation will take place.

This is how statecraft works. Have you ever wondered why there's no Pride parades on Palestine but there are in Tel Aviv?

[–] filister@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Let me ask you using your own rhetoric: "Have you wondered why there is no food in Gaza but there is in Tel Aviv?". Real mystery!

[+] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works -7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The aid comes through Egypt, ask the Egyptians and whatever arm of Hamas steals it and resells it to normal Palestinians?

A lot of aid was found in the tunnels Hamas forced children to construct instead of hospitals and schools and whatnot.

Netanyahu isn't the answer either, but labelling an entire people as genocidal colonisers is a stretch. Also Sephardic Jews exist.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Last time I checked all the entry points to Gaza were controlled by IDF, so perhaps you should change your narrative. And how many entry points did they open. The reality is that Israel can do everything to alleviate the humanitarian situation in Gaza, by opening enough border crossings, and ensuring that sufficient humanitarian aid is entering the enclave but they consciously decided not to. So stop shifting the blame.

Perhaps you could also try to justify the humanitarian aid looting, stealing, destroying by Israeli people, or the many humanitarian aid workers who lost their lives during this war, etc.

[–] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So the IDF controls the border between Gaza and Egypt? You should let Egypt know their border isn't sovereign anymore.

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes they do. Even if they didn't that excuses nothing about what Israel is doing.

And I guess by your Zionist logic no country has any sovereignty if anybody but themselves controls both sides of the border, which checks out since that's also how Israel seems to think borders work.

[–] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So Sephardic Jews exist, not all of them were displaced by the Romans. So your reckless use of the term "Zionist" actually erases one of the oldest continuously existing "western" cultures we have. Greeks? Come and gone, Babylonian rule, sure no problem. Romans? Pretty shitty but whatever. And on and on for the better part of 3000 years.

But do go on about colonialism in literally the oldest confirmed region of human settlement we have outside Eastern Africa.

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Wait do you reply to everyone using the term Zionist with that? Because that's some random tangent if I've ever seen one, triggered by a single word. Good derailing tactic though, you completely changed the subject.

I'm not even sure what your point is. Are you confused about what Zionism is? Because that's funny for a Zionist to be confused about. It means you support the existence of a Jewish-supremacist state, and it's a 19th century nationalist idea from Europe. So whatever you're on about is irrelevant. I'm calling you a Zionist, since you clearly support Israel or you wouldn't be taking the time to spread incorrect bullshit in defense of the IDF here.

Maybe you're confused about my comment. Let me explain. You said:

So the IDF controls the border between Gaza and Egypt? You should let Egypt know their border isn’t sovereign anymore.

Egypt controls Egypt's side of the border. Israel controls the Gaza side, what with them occupying it. Since that should be pretty obvious, it sounds like you think Egypt, in order to be sovereign, needs to control both sides the border, i.e. invade Gaza.

Which is funny to me, because that obviously defeats the whole purpose of a border. So I'm imaging you as a person who thinks the whole point of a border is that both sides should be controlled by the same state, since that's how Israel does it, and you being a Zionist, you think that's the normal way a border works. So "Zionist logic". This is a funny thought, a person so brainwashed they don't understand that borders are not like a checkpoint between Israel and the West Bank. There, you made me explain the joke.

[–] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago

I'm sorry, I was attempting to make a larger point about the conflict in general. There's this idea that Zionism is a homogeneous idea or that the Jewish people are a singular group of people when in fact they have more divisions within their own culture than anyone else. It's really easy to vilify a caricature or incomplete image of a race or ethnicity which is what I've seen in these discussions up to this point.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Oh ya, I'm sure Israel cares a lot about Palestinian hospitals and schools 🙄

How many of those are left now after Israel has bombed them all?

Also, it's not Hamas blocking or stealing the aid...

[–] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which ones, the ones Hamas were using as staging/headquarters areas, or the weapons depots Hamas placed near schools and hospitals that blew up?

There's no winners in war, but please stop pretending that Hamas is a rational actor in this conflict.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

One, that doesn't excuse blowing up schools and hospitals, even if it was true. It makes them way worse than Hamas in every single way. Israel bombing schools, hospitals, and relief agencies isn't some sort of own when Gaza has been left with no running medical system and Israel is still doing war crimes and a genocide. If I was the President, I wouldn't sign off in bombing your neighborhood if a relative of yours did a crime, but then I'm not a genocidal maniac. If I was held hostage and someone blew me up, I'd be way more mad at them than the hostage taker. It's just common sense.

Two, none of that that IDF propaganda has been proven to be true for the places they've blown up in the latest conflict. They stage little photo ops but none of it that I can find has been independently verified, and often it comes out laughably untrue, ruining their credibility further.

Three, it's not a war, it's an apartheid ethnostate occupying territory, doing ethnic cleansing, taking land, and trying to oppress and kill all the indigenous people through genocide over 70 years; and people trying to resist that. Some of those people are terrible, but that's still what it is. The colonizers are the aggressors, the cause of this, any way you slice it.

[–] blackberry@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

"When granaries are full, people know etiquette; when they are well-fed and clothed, they understand honor and shame. " People on the brink of starvation do not ponder philosophy. UNRWA does not cultivate Hamas, but Israel's attacks on Palestinians, killing their relatives, and making them hungry and homeless, are the soil that breeds Hamas. I believe that Zionism will become even more frenzied. According to the 1967 two-state solution, Israel should withdraw from Jerusalem, and if the CPC commits to it, they will never go back on their word.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And it looks like actions were taken by the UNRWA against involved employees. But Israel wants the total destruction of the agency just like Palestine.

[–] regul@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

And how the UNRWA responded, which, as we've seen time and time again, is never enough for these bloodthirsty ghouls: https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/04/1149081

When will the rest of the world learn that it is pointless to try to placate Israel or treat them as though they are acting in good faith? The whole state is run by genocidal fascists who will never be satisfied by even the most obeisant allies.