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[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 0 points 3 months ago

There really wasn’t an expectation of privacy with this. This is not a surprise.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So whats the issue here? Ohh no my private documents are in plain text on my private computer fucking morons.

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Linux nerd water cooler chat.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago

"One of the great things about Linux is that everything can be treated as a text file... Hey wait a minute, ChatGPT is using fucking plaintext files??"

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 0 points 2 months ago

Hardcore Linux nazis love a good negative apple headline when they put their thigh highs on in the morning.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 0 points 3 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


OpenAI announced its Mac desktop app for ChatGPT with a lot of fanfare a few weeks ago, but it turns out it had a rather serious security issue: user chats were stored in plain text, where any bad actor could find them if they gained access to your machine.

As Threads user Pedro José Pereira Vieito noted earlier this week, "the OpenAI ChatGPT app on macOS is not sandboxed and stores all the conversations in plain-text in a non-protected location," meaning "any other running app / process / malware can read all your ChatGPT conversations without any permission prompt."

OpenAI chose to opt-out of the sandbox and store the conversations in plain text in a non-protected location, disabling all of these built-in defenses.

OpenAI has now updated the app, and the local chats are now encrypted, though they are still not sandboxed.

It's not a great look for OpenAI, which recently entered into a partnership with Apple to offer chat bot services built into Siri queries in Apple operating systems.

Apple detailed some of the security around those queries at WWDC last month, though, and they're more stringent than what OpenAI did (or to be more precise, didn't do) with its Mac app, which is a separate initiative from the partnership.


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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Apple has been running ad campaigns about how "Safari is a private browser" lately. The irony of screwing this up, when they even sandbox your Downloads folder

[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How is that related to OpenAI’s app? It’s not an Apple product.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

Oh I'm an idiot. Thought this was an official MacOS app.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago

Microsoft's much-heralded Word app was storing documents as unencrypted DOCX files leaving them viewable by any malware.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is why Apple partnered with them. To keep an eye on them.

[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yea… and absolutely not to pump those stock prices.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why do you think only one of those can be true?

[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why would apple care about the privacy implications of openAI? No one will blame Apple for privacy concerns arising because of them.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Now that OpenAI's technology is integrated all the way across Apple's flagship software and flagship devices, I guarantee you people will blame Apple if OpenAI fumbles privacy even if just on their end.

I've been hearing mixed reactions to Apple choosing OpenAI, because of recent drama and because of Sam Altman specifically. To me, it feels like a "keep your enemies closer" decision on Apple's part because while the company sucks, they do have a competitive (potentially superior) service at the moment.

And Apple has jack without some kind of partnership.

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Well the ChatGPT Mac app and the universal Siri AI are two different things.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imagine if it was just the OpenAI app.

The masses want AI, even if they don't know why. And OpenAI is a big name, even if they make Google look privacy-conscious. The smartest thing for Apple to do is to funnel as many inevitable OpenAI users on their platforms through their own sanitized version of the service.

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 0 points 2 months ago

I don’t like to blindly imagine things like most of the Lemmy user base.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft's much-heralded Notepad.exe was storing files as plain text

Same level of security concern. Quit putting your sensitive data into apps that aren't meant for it.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Yup. Especially apps that are pushing the wonders of cloud services to share that data everywhere.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I store almost everyfuck in plain text, so what?

Oh, somebody wants to use techbro stuff and expect security.

[–] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Many people now use ChatGPT like they might use Google: to ask important questions, sort through issues, and so on. Often, sensitive personal data could be shared in those conversations.

[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Don't a lot of people also keep their tax information as plain text in their PC? If someone's really worried about that stuff being leaked I think it's on them to download VeraCrypt or smth, and also obviously not to use ChatGPT for sensitive stuff knowing that OpenAI and Apple will obviously use it as training data.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago

Well, there's a good side to this - at least the recipe of that totally not poisonous green cocktail will be available from logs.

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

So many apps use sqlite or json files for storage without encryption; this doesn't seem like much of a discovery.

In any case, don't share PII or any of your deepest, darkest secrets with it.