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Good for him, I hope he is ok
He's a traitor, and because of him many people died. I hope he's not ok.
Assange is a citizen of Australia and since The United States is known for spying on its allies the act of exposing US informants would be closer to serving ones own country than act of treason.
Are you talking about the claim that he endangered CIA agents? That was just some bullshit they cooked up to get him on, and I don't think anybody even claimed that somebody actually died.
Imagine thinking exposing the CIA should be a crime, because the poor small beans CIA agents need protection. Who wouldn't want to protect imperial blackmailers, hit men, weapons smugglers and death squad commanders?
You are the traitor for siding with the oppressor.
You are the traitor for siding with the oppressor.
Right supporting Lukashenko's regime is such a noble endeavour!
Too many anarchists and tankies use Lemmy unfortunately.
Traitor? To what country?
@Zoldyck@lemmy.world
Bush, Trump, Clinton and Biden all got more innocent people killed than Julian. Their crimes all dwarf anything he is accused of let alone is guilty of. If you are not a literal bot, you have allowed yourself to be programmed by intelligence agencies into hating the man who exposed the crimes over the men who committed them.
Literal bot. You should try reducing your daily uranium intake.
"Everyone I disagree with is a bot" - you
Everyone that says "i hope hes not ok" is a bot - me
Not a bot. Assange helped regimes and dictators to kill US informants. Innocent people in Syria and Belarus for example got murdered because of the information Assange gave them. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Zoldyck is not lying.
Look up Assange and his connection with Israel Shamir, who helped Lukashenko's regime in Belarus target opposition activists.
This wasn't a mistake, he knew what he was doing.
People just buy into the PR around him (also spread by security services in russia and not only) without taking a critical look at his actions.
Do better!
Sure he had some shady connections, but all accusations of actual wrongdoing supposedly comitted by Assange himself were brought forward, sourced and verified by the same US authorities, that employed or protected the criminals he exposed, which makes them basically worthless.
What he actually DID do without a doubt is do the people of this planet a massive service by releasing proof of countless warcrimes, spying and other illegal activities by US agencies and individuals.
Sure he had some shady connections, but all accusations of actual wrongdoing supposedly comitted by Assange himself were brought forward, sourced and verified by the same US authorities, that employed or protected the criminals he exposed, which makes them basically worthless.
Opposing the Lukashenko regime is being a criminal?
I get tankies and right-wingers, they actually know what Assange is about.
But allegedly well meaning people thinking that he is some sort messiah or saviour, that's what's sad.
He is a genuine supporter of russian imperialism and he has no qualms with sending opposition activists to hellish prisons, all the while positioning himself as some sort of fighter against US imperialism.
Former russia today employee, Julian Assange after British prison, Volodymyr Tsema-Bursov, Ukrainian POW, after 20 month in russian captivity.
And Assange support the russian regime and enables what they do to captives.
Exactly.
Then prosecute him for that. But the US doesn't care about activists, does it? Why do you think US is after him specifically?
What about, what about, what about?
Post the actual proof rather than a link to a wikipedia article.
You do BETTER.
The Wikipedia article is a good starting point if you wanted to actually get an alternative perspective.
But you don't.
Regurtitating the same talking points your government uses for people that reveal its atrocities are "bots" no matter how you spin it. There are tankie bots and you are a wankie bot.
Tell us more about how revealing war crimes and global surveillance are traitors, bot.
Try looking up the definition of the word bot. You might learn something today.
The consequences of doing a bad thing are on the person doing it, not the whistle blower.
If they wanted to keep their secrets, they should of made sure they weren't so fucking rough. Nobody would of leaked any files if those heli pilots were saving children instead of joking after killing them.
He'll be back to supporting russian imperialism and working with russian security services. Even more people will end up in russian concentration camps (where they have it way worse than he did in British prison) because of his actions.
The guys literally worked for russia today and admitted that he had a personal policy of never criticizing russia in a substantive manner.
But what US war crimes have you exposed?
I wonder what he had to give up in the plea deal.
Or, who.
Asking the real question.
This feels unreal.
Assange has been held in [...] Prison on the outskirts of London for five years, and he previously spent seven years in self-exile at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London [...] until his asylum was withdrawn and he was forcibly carried out of the embassy and arrested in April 2019.
12 years... fuck...
If anybody needs a catch up on the facts of this case:
https://apnews.com/article/assange-wikileaks-plea-deal-39b72e6be6a775dae9b008728a46e595
Hopefully he can safely return to his home country and take a long deserved rest from this all.
It'll probably take a decade or more to recover mentally from all the shit he has gone through.
I just hope he takes his time to recover and passes the wikileaks torch as all the accumulated resentment and paranoia will probably take a while to shed off. Going all out on anti-american frenzy on social media and whatnot would likely lead to undesirable outcome for him in public eye.
I’m wondering if it was worth the sacrifice. The governments and tech companies are spying more than ever on everyone.
Snowden revelations and Wikileaks have made E2EE pretty much a standard for most internet services. People are also far less naive when it comes to online privacy which has spawned bunch of regulations like GDPR and bunch of investigations on how well services and products handle information security.
WikiLeaks was churning along fine and doing actual useful work in relative anonymity until Mr Assange's ego decided WikiLeaks needed a figurehead, painting a target on his back - you reap what you sow.
He is a dick, who used to be important for wikileaks but has kept tergeting specific angles for his leaks, which seems to indicate pushing a political agenda, which reduces trust in him and his platform.
The work he started is too important to leave in his care.
Example: During the DNC email leak, Wilileaks was clearly in a rush to publish the documents without removing credit card information and social security numbers, this is just sloppy.
Assange also worked to draw out the release of documents to increase Wikileaks publicity, this went on far enough that he publicly made announcements of releases that never came.
Wikileaks also published evidence that the DNC was behind the killing of Seth Rich, a DC staffer that Assange alluded to have given him the emails, this evidence came from a PI who has freely admitted not having seen any emails between Wikileaks and Seth not having seen the laptop containing the emails, or even having spoken with someone who had. The PI in question is a known FOX contributer.
Assange also seems to have weirdly close ties to Russia, he only had his morning talkshow broadcast on RT, supposedly they were the only ones to take up his show for syndication.
When he was first exiled, he requested that the Russian security service FSB should handle his security detail.
Today, the largest sponsor of Wikileaks is the Russian Government.
All of this speaks to Wikileaks not being the supreme beacon of free speach, but rather part of the Russian propaganda machine.
I don't think it started this way, Assange and Wikileaks probably started with the best of intentions, but the reality of our society came into play and Assange/Wikileaks sold thier credibillity for money from the Russian government.
But what US war crimes have you exposed?