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[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (9 children)

What a complete joke that company is

[–] Illegalmexicant@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I'm glad to hear he won't "lose interest" in working now. I can't wait to see his next big plan after the industry dominating cyber truck.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Idk, 56 billion buckaroos would instantly make me "lose interest" in working. Permanently.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

It should eliminate your need to work, but Musk feeds on the attention and less so the money. There's not a thrill left he can't afford.

Running around and acting important is all he has left.

[–] ilovededyoupiggy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hell, I'd permanently lose interest in working for a measly $55 billion.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Don't undervalue yourself

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Spoiler alert: it mostly involves shit-posting on Twitter, and sexually harassing his employees.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'll do that for them for the princely sum of $10 million. Bargain!

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you are looking to subcontract some of that workload, I only need 1 mil to talk shit online

[–] Chef@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I give dirty looks for $25k. Subcontract your subcontract.

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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Asking for another paycheck since they are so soft?

[–] joekar1990@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I could totally see Tesla reincorporation in Texas and then the board putting another pay package up for a vote out of spite.

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[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No but you see he is a visionary! A real life Tony Stark!! He'll do great things with that money like... Making ~~Twitter~~ X likes private for some reason...? I'm sure that cost a lot of money somehow /s

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

To be clear this isn't official results, this is what musk is projecting.

But the only think the big holders care about is their return rates. And they know Tesla is waaaaaaay overvalued. It's all based on hype.

So would Tesla be a better company free of musk?

Undoubtedly.

But they don't care about that. Musk hype drove the stock price up, no real company would be so overvalued. Without continued hype, the price goes down, which might cause a run on the stock and might end the company.

musk is Tesla. And it's why the company will be nothing but hype. Doesn't matter if the company loses money as long as stock price keeps going up.

Making quality vehicles isnt their business model, it's keeping the stock price up.

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At this point it may as well be a ritual sacrifice of money

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'd love to hear from anyone at all who can give me a reason why the shareholders would vote for this. The stock value has been going down for both the 1 year and 3 year time frames, so he's not doing great things today. The company only made a profit of $18B last year, so this is like wiping out 3 years of profitability in one step. This package is over half of the company's total revenue!! In what world do investors think it's a good idea to say one guy deserves almost as much as the entire company brings in for a year?

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Nepo babies understand each other's need to suck money from people who produce the value.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'll wait for the financial analysts that I both trust, and I know hate Musk, before I have any confidence in answering that question.

But... My best guess is that it's less fanboy worship, and more fear that Musk is the only thing propping up the insane stock price.

I'm assuming that Musk has a very complex web of possibly illegal and highly engineered financial instruments that keep that stock pumping, or at least, not crashing - yet.

Maybe those who voted to approve might be aware, or involved, in that house of cards and believe removing Musk would be akin to blowing on it.

But I'm just pulling all of this out of my ass, so who knows. It might be as simple as the majority of Tesla shareholders who voted, including the institutional one's, are really just submental morons.

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[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Wait...when did it go from 46 to 56?

And also...do the "shareholders" think this will improve the value of the company? Isn't it more than half of their revenue? Wouldn't this actually be a really bad thing for Tesla's value? Isn't Tesla one of the few EV producers with quickly dropping sales figures? Are the shareholders actually just Mlon Eusk? Enquiring minds want to know!

[–] lurker8008@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Those idiots decided to throw away their money to a grifter, who are we to judge? Let them drive the company to the ground, plenty of EV producers actually making good cars.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

I'd be fine with all them diamond handing their way to bankruptcy, if it didn't help enrich that dickhead musk.

[–] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

They turned on the fully automated self driving feature and now they cannot turn it off.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

plenty of EV producers actually making good cars.

Are there? I'm waiting. Maybe the Ionic 6.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I mean, this is actually probably the "right" decision from a shareholder perspective.

Delaware is still going to stop that bribe any time soon. But this way the stock won't tank when musk guts the company out of spite and they can sell off their shares over the next few weeks/months.

Horrible for the company but... that company was already fucked.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not super well versed with economics, could you eli5 how it's a good decision for the shareholders? Not being snarky, I'd actually like to know.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

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Delaware is still going to stop that bribe any time soon. But this way the stock won’t tank when musk guts the company out of spite and they can sell off their shares over the next few weeks/months.

Horrible for the company but… that company was already fucked.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

Shhhhh....I haven't been up for 18hrs, and I certainly haven't been drinking. Just....just shhhhhhh.

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[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

That's the kinda attitude that takes you places, yer gonna go far kid!

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Dumb fucks do dumb fuck thing.

[–] thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago

The stupid shareholders are financing Musk’s Twitter-disaster.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] cor@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

he has so much money that he needs more money….

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago

That’s how the rich operate.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago

Actually speculation is that twitter and general poor decision making may be overextending him.

He still has more "worth" than any of us can ever dream of. But he doesn't have the liquidity to do anything with it. And considering the strong indications that it is the Saudis and possibly the Russians who bankrolled a lot of the twitter shit...

A good way to think about it is this: Your friend from college who actually managed to buy a house a couple years back? They have more "money" than most people you know. But, unless they are willing to sell that house, they can't do anything with it. So they are still living based on their paychecks and savings in the bank.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This company is doomed lol. Fucking dimwits.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 3 months ago

German & Chinese car makers will be happy.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Musk owns more than 20% of Tesla stock.

While some investors remained silent on their voting position, Tesla's largest shareholders, including Vanguard Group, BlackRock, and State Street, collectively holding roughly 17% of Tesla's stock, abstained from public comment. The full voting breakdown will be revealed during a Tesla shareholder meeting in Austin.

One, what an AI-written paragraph: "While some ... remained silent ... [others] abstained from public comment." Aren't those the same thing?

Two, this is all just a bunch of rich motherfuckers deciding how much of an insane amount of wealth to give to one of them. Where'd they get that money? Customers.

Imagine how competitive an electric car company could be if it wasn't just a front for shuffling vast sums of money around between people who already have more money than they could ever spend.

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 0 points 3 months ago

One, what an AI-written paragraph: "While some ... remained silent ... [others] abstained from public comment." Aren't those the same thing?

Yes, but it works. The emphasis is that all of the richest were silent instead of just some, which was the case for the rest of the shareholders. We hate repeating words in general English (which is why we have such a ridiculous amount of vocabulary), so “silent” was replaced the second time.

Still awkwardly worded, though, so you might be right with the AI thing.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It depends if "public comment" is akin to going on the record. Then staying silent means they didn't say anything, and not making a public comment means they said something to us that we promised not to make public.

Saying something not on the record is actually pretty common. And is most of what private sources are about and for. They might be able to point a reporter to someone or something that would be able to be reported on. Trust is a super important difference between an established reporter and a new reporter.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mothergodfuckingdammit what is wrong with people

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

according to a social media post by Musk himself

Very few in the comments seems to have noticed this pretty crucial part.
Let's wait and see the actual result.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Great thing to do when they have to fire people, because the company goes to shit.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I def voted no with my three shares.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

You mean your 1.5 shares. Wait, no, it'll still be three shares, they'll just be worth 1.5 current shares.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

When a dragon hoards the people's gold, the solution isn't to give it more gold.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's like, a million people's wages. Absurd.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's far, far more money than all the people he just laid off because he "had no other choice"

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It's more money than the total amount of profit the company has EVER made across ALL years it's been operating combined.

The company CANNOT liquidate all that money without literally killing itself. Tesla is walking dead.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

It feels like musk needs this money desperately to pay off some debt he owes to some very unsavory people. As long as he bribes all the right people in sufficient amounts they'll be happy enough to fold the company and hope for a massive government bailout.

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