Is Intel paying the state or country for this abuse of the logistics network? This feels like freeloading on a publicly funded piece of infrastructure.
this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2024
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I'm assuming the transport accommodations are part of the perk package (for lack of a better way to put it)
I have no insight into this particular plant, but in most big investments like this, the company is usually in talks with several locations negotiating for the best tax breaks, permitting accommodations, etc under the promise that it will bring skilled jobs to the area.
I'm a logistics professional with some project cargo experience. The transportation arrangements are almost certainly being made by a private company not related to Intel. There are only a handful of trailers in the country that can move something like this.
Road closures for oversize loads always cost money, sometimes on a per minute basis
Intel will be paying people to build and work at the factory. Highly skilled labor that can't be shipped overseas easily. It will also likely bring other companies to the area because of access to those highly skilled workers. The state will likely make more a lot more back in taxes and economic growth than the cost of the transports.
I hope truckers, pilot car drivers and dispatchers will be making crazy money off this parade as well. Ohio exists, might as well make the best of it. XD
Intel also works with local community colleges to offer semiconductor specific training to be a manufacturing technician, and it's not a huge jump to be a maintenance/repair tech or jump to IT within the fab and in my experience all those roles from technician to IT pay fairly good wages high 20's to mid 30's/hr and up depending on experience.
The state will likely make more a lot more back in taxes and economic growth than the cost of the transports.
That's a nice thought but what we've seen throughout history is the polar opposite.
Yup.
Without checking, I'm betting that Ohio gave them incredibly tax breaks that are nearly without end, meaning none of the money goes back into the local economy whatsoever
My states done it so many times now, and we don't have income tax, so none of the money goes back into the local economy on the executive side, only on the workers side, putting all the issues it causes on workers! Woo!
The investment in public infrastructure is not only for you to use on your car. Part of it is enabling the industrial growth of the region.
If every company had to build its own infrastructure, why are they paying taxes?
It would be a huge waste to have that much one-time infrastructure.
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Looks like they put the oversized load on a boat for as long as they could, but have to do the last leg by road.
Yep, the fab plant is a little east of Columbus (just south of where I live actually). This is one of like 2 dozen "super loads" that has to make its way from the Ohio River up to the plant. I swear there is a website somewhere that keeps track of when the are coming, the routes they take, and the closures involved but my Google-fu is failing me now.
If it makes you feel any better it's probably Google that's failing, not you
Look at the bright side, once intel gets this new plant up and running cranking out next-gen chips, Google will be able to fail you even faster!
Even before Google stopped working, I'm not sure the results of googling "super load" would have been what you are looking for.
Try "super loads AND when they are coming?"
As excited as I am to see my home city actually growing and gaining national attention, I miss the chill cow-town vibes. Traffic is only gonna get worse from here.
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I mean, everyone has been crying and whinging for years, decades even, that the USA needs to ramp up semiconductor fabrication in case shit goes south in Taiwan. We are finally getting some domestic production power and we're getting outraged by the traffic delays? America will sink itself because of our people's own addiction to comfort and complaining about any slight to that comfort.
Is this going to raise gas prices!!?!
I don't even think this is complaining about mild inconvenience, it's just outrage addiction that has taken over most of the country.
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But how many football fields does it weigh?
About 4,000 washing machines.
Those are some incredibly heavy washing machines.
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I hope they're paying huge fees to the local DOTs...
Their stock is basically on sale right now. And the feds are throwing billions at them...
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Neat!
Have fun dealing with the damage to the infrastructure 👍
It's Ohio. What infrastructure?
There is none. None they would have to avoid or drive around, at least. Imagine a thing like that in Manhattan. ..
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They did something similar with some transformers here in Australia, and unfortunately there were some possibly associated traffic incidents where people might have not been going the right speed and got rear-ended. One man died, even.
Please avoid the route, even when it is pulled over to "rest", as your fellow motorists may not be able to resist rubbernecking.
Why didn't the transformers just drive themselves? Or better yet turn into airplanes?
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I wonder why they don't move this in chunks and assemble them locally. A transport like this must cost a gazillion.
I'm assuming because they can't.
Yeah if I had to guess a lot of components need to be assembled/put together in a clean room. Then to keep everything "clean", mine as well just assemble it all in one place, which isn't likely doable on site.
No, really??!!
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Isn't Angstrom 10^-10 meters? And nanometers 10^-9 meters? So 20A (assuming A = Angstrom) is just 2nm?
Are they trying to say that by moving to this new era, they'll go single digit Angstrom i.e., 0.x nm?
Yes, but that is long past an actuall transistor size and just a marketing term.
So what is the actual transistor size then? And why use an SI unit then anyway? Why not use femto-bananas then when it does not reflect the real size?
Smallest features are around 13nm due to EUV wavelength. I think people incorporated hacks to etch smaller stuff but not much smaller.
I think it is similar stuff as with Moore's "law" that is not an actuall law only a trend or myth.
In the 70' 80' 90' that number represented an actuall size and it stuck into 00' 10' and 20'
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This is why ultrasized cargo airships need to be a thing. Just sling that bad boy underneath a kilometre long hydrogen dirigible and fly it to its destination.
Oh the humanity
Or, historically, when you’re building a new factory, the first thing you do is build a rail connection right next to it
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The biggest news here is that semiconductor production is amping up in the states, which is good for national security and reduces reliance on Taiwan.
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