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[–] appel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whenever someone calls something "socialist", ask them to explain socialism to you and watch their argument fold like a wet blanket. They usually have no idea. In fact, many would love a healthy dose of Northern European socialism in their lives, as long as you call it "Owningthelibism" or something.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Capitalism with social programs is better than without, but that's not socialism. It's just not neoliberalism.

[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What makes countries where the State has high power fail then?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Concentration of power with those "social services", making people pay higher taxes many times for unfair reasons. Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that'll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country. Putting everything in the hands of the State is a recipe of disaster.

[–] christiansocialist@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that'll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country.

China has tons of small and big businesses and it's still socialist.

[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

Chinese companies are basically extensions of the government.

[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess that book would be written by someone who calls everyone who they disagree with a "right-wing extremist".

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is such a thing as a "non-extremist" right-winger?

[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

No, they're all violently discussing things, terribly defending your rights of saying your mind and defending more of those horrible things like stable families, no concentration of power and you having the control of your money instead of giving it all to the government in taxes. Meanwhile leftists are peacefully burning stuff, lovely degrading others' properties and making those magical explicit parades in public. No, only lefties are good. Right bad.