Join Pixelfed instead!
Cara is just another fucking centralized social media that’s gonna get run to the ground the moment they can monetize their user base.
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Artists are mostly not going to figure out the fediverse. There really needs to be some kind of way of accessing it that is more layman friendly if we ever want it to be adopted by non-nerds
The artist and nerd Venn diagram is practically a circle around my parts.
It’s really not that complicated and with shit like Threads, companies are introducing the concept to the masses while the enshittification of Instagram and the like will force people to look for alternatives.
We need to welcome people with open arms and not push them away the moment someone has a question about how federation works.
Threads is only federated in name. It's simply Meta's taking advantage of Twitter's downfall. It's as centralized and under Meta's thumb as they come.
Still introduces the concept and will make people aware of other instances.
Definitely avoid it but it’s still publicly for federation.
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Artists are perfectly able to use the fediverse, that is not what is stopping them.
They don't come because they need to be where their fans are. That is why Cara will only be a splash: their niche is artists who place more value on the anti-AI slant than on meeting their audience where it lives. By definition that is not conducive to a lot of organic growth.
I didn’t even know what it was till yesterday. Not sure it’s the bastion of the public.
You say that like this shit is hard to use.
Nah. But anything more complicated than a MacBook scares most people away. Most people aren't down with anything that isn't a turnkey experience
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If they keep burning $100k/w on their Vercel bill they might not be around that long anyway!
Cara is popular because of it's anti ai stance. They have a detector to not allow ai images to be on the platform. Pixelfed allows it and also lack active users that are not artists.
For now.
Ai support or not it will still be aggressively monetized the moment enough users are locked in.
Fomo is a hell of a drug eh.
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According to their terms and service, everything uploaded to their website is then owned by them. Doesn't seem very artist friendly to me.
The Cara Site and all works of art (“Art”) and/or other user generated content (including without limitation commentary, images, third-party links, and similar content and/or works) (collectively the “Art And Other User Generated Content”), text, data, and other materials contained in the Cara Site are copyrighted unless otherwise noted and are the property of Cara and/or the individual artist who created any individual piece of Art And Other User Generated Content (the “Artist”). No such materials may be copied, reproduced, republished, modified or used in any way except as provided in these Terms and Conditions.
Why did you specifically not put in bold this part and are the property of Cara. Clearly you saw it off you took the time to avoid putting stars around it.
the property of Cara and/or the individual artist
This seems worded to muddy the waters about who actually has the copyright.
Monetization plan might be to sell prints of platformed artists work, with out any need for pesky royalties.
Ok, the lady behind Cara just WON a f-ing copywrite lawsuit against some dick that stole her artwork. I'm 100% sure the wording is so if you *think* about stealing from Cara, she will come after your ass with both guns blazing.
Regardless, their terms of service let's Cara not only sell prints and your artwork to third parties but also let's them sell your artwork for AI training if they wanted to.
Instagram for all it's fault specifically says that they don't own your artwork and only get a license to show it.
I don't really care what she won, people tend to cave really fast if given proper financial incentive.
No, it doesn't. It states that the copyrighted works are the property of Cara and/or the artist who created the Works, except where otherwise noted. This specifically would cover cases where someone attempts to claim that a Work they found on Cara isn't copyrighted because a copyright notice wasn't explicitly stated, and doesn't make explicit claims over the ownership of any arbitrary Work. For it to work in the way you're claiming, the "or" cannot be present as it being there implies the existence of Works on the site which Cara does not have property rights to. Who actually possesses the property rights to any given Work is left, apparently intentionally, ambiguous.
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That’s not true
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The clause is literally a comment or so down and available on their website.
Who. The fuck. Cares
I'll be watching this curiously from a safe distance for now. I am interested in a new platform without AI, but this stinks of early-stage enshitification.
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So what happend when this app needs to pay server costs for 600,000 people?
What is their monetisation plan? Currently they don't seem to have anything other than donations?
What's a "plan"?
Pixelfed looks like they are doing a huge push to get up to speed. It has been an immature app/platform for a long time and slow to get the features that people need from a photo sharing social media.
According to their mastodon, they are working for better AI management features, and launching an app that will make it a genuinely positive experience.
The official app is available in beta. I’m very impressed
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Yet another centralised social network. That pinky-promises they'll never go bad.
Join now! Bring your friends! No ads! Everything's free! We're indie!...
Moments later... enshitification ensues.
Solves the problem for a few years until Meta buys their users and data back.
Assuming they don't own them already as a sort of pressure valve. Yeah I'm getting that cynical.
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...until they decide to sell their company. Or their user data. Or the shareholders say so. Or...
Is it federated and open source? If not, I'll pass.
Pixelfed is the alternative we want
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