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[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok, you're right, I didn't think about that. Let's just say that federation/defederation is a tricky question.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Seems pretty simple. If you want to be able to see the content on an instance that everyone else has defederated from, create an account on that instance as well. Apps allow for pretty seamless usage of multiple accounts. That's the easy alternative to the constant "make your own instance and run it yourself response"

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What’s the point of federation if you need to make multiple accounts anyway?

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Federation isn't the same as "practically the same server". That's just Twitter or Reddit you're describing then, a single fully unified pot of information that is still spread out over a vast amount of individual servers for only for parallelization and redundancy reasons.

Federated applications like Lemmy are, as the name implies, federated. Not merged or unified or so.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

E-mail is also a federated protocol. Imagine if every time you wanted to send an e-mail, you had to check whether your provider likes the recipient’s provider and if not, create an account at the recipient’s provider (if that’s even possible).

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh you mean like that thing email servers do when they block other email servers. Yeah imagine that. That'd be wild! 😂

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I know that and how the same people who support defederation love to complain about Gmail and Outlook blocking their home server.

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The main point of federation for me is access to more content without it being run by large corporations. If an instance gets taken over by a toxic group that is bot spamming advertisements or such I can move to another instance and the community lives on without having to find a whole new platform.

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I think self hosting is easier than messing around with multiple accounts on different instances