I think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of us are here to avoid another corporate takeover of our preferred platforms. It would seem to me to be a tad irresponsible to allow Facebook into our space with open arms, allowing them to hoover up our data. I would love to keep using Lemmy.world, but will happily change instances if need be, and I feel many share that sentiment.

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[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 43 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The amount of Meta bootlickers in this thread is incredible.

[–] yuki2501@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Noe consider how the number will increase AFTER they start federating!

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Someone who disagrees with you is not a bootlicker.

Meta is a garbage company. Meta has done terrible things historically. At the moment we don't know how Threads will affect the rest of the Fediverse. I'm ok with giving Meta a short leash. If you disagree, join an instance that has already blocked them. That's how this works.

I fully expect, once rolled out, I'll block Threads, but that is MY choice to make.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Meta doesnt need a short leash, it needs put down.

[–] sour@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

if you disagree go to threads

[–] bluefirex@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I'm not part of the fediverse to still have to maintain 20 accounts. In the end I want one account, ideally from somewhere like Mastodon, to rule them all. And your circlejerk throws a wrench into it for absolutely no reason other than aluminum foil bullshit.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If that's what you were hoping for you should join Nostr, there they don't have defederation.

Here though we do, and we use it because that's the whole point of it, to block servers that are harmful or push unsavory content. Those who block servers are not opinionated snowflakes who have invalid opinions either.

Look the thing is that the user freedom aspect of the fediverse is not that you're in full control of your account, or that you're able to have unrestricted access to federation, it's that there's more than one place to sign up at. It's not like Reddit where when you get banned it's game over unless you want to spend time messing with Tor and setting up brand new emails to make a new account. There are other servers where you can sign up to if your current server bans you or defederates the instance where your communities are on.

The thing is the federation aspect is grossly misunderstood and was misrepresented in the beginning to get people to join. It is not an open and unrestricted Network, that means that there are instances that will not be up to the standards of others, for those instances they get defederated. If you still want to interact with them you need an account on them that's just the way it is and the way it always has been, and it isn't going to change anytime soon. The sooner you make peace with that the better your time will be here, and if you can't make peace with it or you hate it I would suggest moving to a more open protocol like Nostr, and getting situated there.

These open protocols do have their own drawbacks, though if having one account and never having to worry about defederation is so important you I would definitely suggest looking into that, fediverse and ActivityPub might just not be for you.

[–] bluefirex@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I think you did not get what I was saying. If an instance is blocking another one for illegal content or whatnot then of course do that for e everyonem threads is neither illegal nor have they represented any kind of threat to Lemmy or Mastodon or any other part of the fediverse but Lemmy acts as if Meta is going to destroy every single fediverse thing with non-existent tools and strategies in 0.2s after they start federating both ways.

I already see myself setting up my own instances so I can rest in peace from the bullshit that's repeated on here. Might implement my own regex filter just to block out this bullshit.

Edit: just scrolled 3 other posts preemptively hating for nonsense. Im just gonna leave this shithole altogether. Bye guys!

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I already see myself setting up my own instances so I can rest in peace from the bullshit that's repeated on here. Might implement my own regex filter just to block out this bullshit.

Just to be clear if you do engage in trolling or bad behavior they may block your insurances as well. Not necessarily saying that you will but I know that some have tried. Yes there are tools that let you bypass the federation or you can just get new domains but that's called circumvention and could be considered a cyber attack.

Edit: just scrolled 3 other posts preemptively hating for nonsense. Im just gonna leave this shithole altogether. Bye guys!

Great, if ActivityPub isn't working out for you and you can't stand defederation then there's the door.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Threads is part of the Fediverse now. Literally all it would be is joining an instance that you agree with.

[–] sour@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

i want everything in one place because convenience and only convenience

[–] Awkwardparticle@programming.dev 12 points 11 months ago

People don't get that with money they can do whatever they want. Want to do something illegal, just do it because you have unlimited funds to pay your legal team to clean up the mess afterwards. We are absolutely powerless against something that can litigate you to death. Defederating is the only power we have. There is no way to react to anything that happens. There are no consequences for their actions. They don't even answer to any governments.