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[โ€“] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I assume that, given the choice, you'd still prefer people to be vegetarian than carnivorous though.

[โ€“] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well yeah, of course. This was mostly about the people who call themselves ethical vegetarians tbh.

[โ€“] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I suppose ethics is a spectrum.

[โ€“] aroom@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

of course, but in this situation it's pretty simple. how do you act with the choice given.

[โ€“] jozep@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In which situation does a person gets to chose another random person eating habits?

[โ€“] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When you're put in charge of making food for people and choice of food is up to you?

Not really the point of my comment.

[โ€“] nova@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but that's like saying "I don't shoot dogs, I just kick them." Like, sure, I guess that's better, but when you say you do it because you "care about dogs," that doesn't make sense.

[โ€“] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Not sure why this needs to go off piste. It's like saying I don't shoot and eat [animal] for sustenance, I milk [animal] for sustenance. It's up to individuals to decide if that is conscionable or not, maybe impacted by whether you think they're inconsistent and maybe not.

[โ€“] nova@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think this is where the disconnect is. It's not just milking an animal. It's getting her pregnant, taking her child away from her shortly after birth and killing it. It's keeping her trapped in a tiny pen for her whole life, barely able to move. Then, when she can no longer produce milk, kill her, 6 years into her 20-year lifespan.

Dairy is cruel. Arguably more cruel than meat.

[โ€“] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Exactly this. I'd kinda rather people ate meat and not dairy than the opposite, the dairy industry is fucked up.