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Americans of Lemmy, what is your approach to next year's election? (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 year ago by Jordan_Jordan@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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2020 was... truly unique. It was so hard to stay away from doom scrolling, and I (and many others) were pretty disillusioned by the sad fact that so much of our country legitimately supported the Orange Man. I didn't get a wink of sleep the night of the election because I genuinely considered it to be a make or break decision for America.

My point is that looking back on it, in the end the only real difference I made was at the ballet box. This year I'm going for the Head-in-the-Sand approach. I'm done with the political memes. Done with the Twitter screenshots. It just riles me up and this year I'm gonna do my best to fight that.

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[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tell me you don't know how FPtP voting systems work by not telling me you don't know how FPtP voting works. Please read up on it and the "spoiler effect."

Any vote for a third party is a vote against your preferred candidate. It happens with any first-past-the-post voting and two parties is the eventual end result. Eventually multiple parties get eliminated by voters who don't want their vote to go to waste.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

It happens with any first-past-the-post voting and two parties is the eventual end result.

39 parties are represented in my country's Parliament. The UK has 10, Canada and Russia 5 each. Electoral systems like FPTP that produce a single winner tend to favour a two-party system (Duverger's law), but it is not inevitable.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

it's FFtP that does that. It's your attitude that does that. You'd rather throw your hands up and whine about the situation than make even a tiny effort to change it.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wtf are you talking about? Who said anything about not wanting or trying to change it? But voting third party will do nothing but fuck yourself and the party you'd rather have in power. No one with less than a 7-digit bank account wants to vote for one of two parties. We do what we must today for a chance to do what we want tomorrow. To do otherwise is either disingenuous, uninformed, selfish.

The US almost dropped the electoral college in the last decade. Back at that time we had a moderately functioning govt, higher taxes on the rich, and less money in politics.

That's why I say it won't change now. It's even more impossible than the last time we failed to make it happen.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one with less than a 7-digit bank account wants to vote for one of two parties

Then stop doing it dumbass and stop encouraging other people to do it

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's clear you're trolling or your reading comprehension is subpar. Either way, I don't have time for either.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

You literally have a choice, you make a choice that you don't like and then whine that you had no choice. It's clear you're either trolling or have a pretty severe victimization fetish.