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House censures only Palestinian member over call for Palestinian freedom | Mondoweiss (mondoweiss.net)
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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What is different? What is different between the slow encroachment on land, the starvation of resources, and the disproportionate violent response to raids that kill settlers?

[–] JoeHill@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
  1. Intent, which is what I’ve been trying to explain. “Kill the buffalo, kill the Indian”.
  2. Population has dramatically increased since ‘67. Hard to argue that it’s “destr[uction]” when the population is markedly higher. Compare that to the plains Indians after the deliberate destruction of the buffalo.

Denial of national aspirations is not the same thing as genocide, and to conflate the two does the Palestinian cause no favors.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you think that Palestinians have been put in an environment meant to bring about early and unnatural deaths by accident?

Israeli settlers love burning Palestinian olive trees which take forever to regrow or settling in agricultural areas and then using violence to keep Palestinians out.

The average age in the gaza strip is 18 years old thereabouts.

That the population has grown is meaningless to whether Israel is trying to kill them. If the indigenous population grew for a period of ten years during manifest destiny that wouldn't be proof that it wasn't a genocide.

[–] JoeHill@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We’re not going to agree and I have other things I need to do today. We’ll have to respectfully disagree that unnatural deaths alone constitute genocide.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago

Oh spare me the pseudo civility you genocide defending antisemitic piece of shit.