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[–] Corgana@startrek.website 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vulcans understand calculated risk. It would be illogical to assume certainty was possible in any situation. What would be Illogical is for Samantha to assume that she didn't have a positive impact on Naomi, and that Naomi wouldn't be loved and cared for by the Voyager crew were she to die.

It would also be illogical to focus on what she cannot control (especially in an emergency situation) Tuvok is reminding her that she's done what she can.

[–] aaaa@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm with you, the only part of this that's based on faith is the last statement, and that's easily attributed to Tuvok recognizing that the more emotional humans tend to respond well to faith.

He's served with humans for decades, and he knows strict Vulcan mentality won't help this situation. (A lesson he continued to learn during voyager's run, despite the decades of experience under his belt)

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 18 points 1 year ago

Yeah toally, and I don't even think it's fair to say any of it based "on faith". Tuvok lays out several reasons why Naomi thriving is highly probable.

If it was TOS Spock he probably would have said something like "I predict there is a 91.47% chance your child will reach adulthood with strong emotional and physical health" (followed by a "my God, man!" from McCoy).

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

He's served with humans for decades

I think this bears repeating because a lot of people don't realize it. Tuvok is canonicially a lot older than he looks: he served under Sulu on the Excelsior! I don't think he was in active service during the entire interval between then and the Voyager era (because why would his rank be so low?), but he's been around a long time.