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The Biden administration requested Israel detail the thinking and process behind the recent strike on the Jabalia Refugee Camp in Northern Gaza, according to a U.S. official, who like others was granted anonymity to discuss sensitive conversations.

"The U.S. asked for an explanation of the first [attack] on Jabalia," said the official, adding that the conversation was in the context of "asking Israel to do more to avoid civilian casualties."

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

And it parallels the modern practices of Zionism, by promoting antisemitism around the world and then welcoming Jews who flee antisemitism into the already established Jewish settlement in occupied Palestine. Nothing has changed.

I'm not saying Zionists did the holocaust, but they literally did work with Hitler to help rid Germany of Jews. That's verifiable fact. I don't think they wanted the holocaust to happen, but WWII sure was convenient for encouraging Jews to flee to occupied Palestine.

[–] cozz33@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That’s a LOT of scheming for a piece of land the size of New Jersey. Even smaller had they agreed to the UN proposal and unified with Transjordan and let the Zionists deal with cultivating the negev desert.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The Zionists are motivated by fascistic blood-and-soil nationalism and mythology about the promised land, the fact that it's really not that much land and not that valuable is irrelevant. Why do you think they're willing to commit genocide over this shit?

Though Israel is very well suited for America to control the Middle East and North Africa and the Mediterranean. That, in addition to the apocalyptic fantasy from America's sizeable Armageddon cult, are why Israel is treated as the 51st state.

[–] cozz33@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t see that when reading the writings of most pioneering Zionists. Not saying there went some that thought like that, but the vast majority I’ve encountered while researching Zionism share roughly the same reasoning: tired of being hunted and having nowhere to run. Think about it, persecuted Christians have all of Europe and America to flee to, Muslims have all of the Middle East and parts of Africa to flee to, the Jews had nowhere to flee to. Frankly, being part of a group that is consistently hunted time and time again throughout history, being called parasites because they have no homeland, will do a number on one’s psychology. I’d wager that the vast majority of Zionists were not in fact fascists, but deeply scared people who saw safety in having a place to call their own.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

persecuted Christians have all of Europe and America to flee to,

Yeah, after they murdered all the natives and stole their land. Hmmmmmmm! Sounds familiar!

Frankly, being part of a group that is consistently hunted time and time again throughout history, being called parasites because they have no homeland, will do a number on one’s psychology. I’d wager that the vast majority of Zionists were not in fact fascists, but deeply scared people who saw safety in having a place to call their own.

There's nothing magical about being Jewish that makes antisemitism inevitable. They aren't genetically predisposed to being persecuted or something.

This blood-and-soil concept that an ethnicity needs a "homeland" is both outdated and quite racist. In the modern age we should pursue multi-ethnic and multi-racial and multi-religious democracies, not apartheid ethnostates built on genocide and land theft and endless fucking war.

This is going nowhere. I'll end with this: Scared people are notoriously dangerous. I'm sure they were legitimately afraid of being persecuted, but fear certainly can motivate fascistic ideology and doesn't actually justify their ethnonationalism. What we see today, a genocidal ethnostate practicing apartheid and ethnic cleansing, is the inevitable result of all ethnonationalism. The only way this ever ends is if Israel becomes a democracy and allows Palestinians to vote, or if they kill and kill and kill until Israel is an island surrounded by a sea of irradiated glass. That's it.

Zionism is absolutely unsustainable and Hamas just proved it. Let's not keep the experiment going until it turns into WW3.