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Leftists Embracing Imperialist Narratives Laid The Groundwork For This Wave Of Censorship
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Russia's grievances are "we can't take your land," you are aggressively stupid if you actually think Russia is cool with peace talks that are actually realistic to what's happened
No, Russia's grievances are "we don't want NATO in Ukraine" and "we don't want armed Nazis on our border" and "we don't believe you're treating ethnically Russia people right"
There's stuff to negotiate over. If you don't want to negotiate over those things then just admit it, stop just pretending like Russians are crazy warhungry orcs.
Oh fucking please, I know you're not this stupid. Russia's grievances are that putin wants to bring all of the old USSR territory back into the fold, either by literally absorbing the territory or by installing puppet states that act as a defacto Russian territory. If Russia's main intent was to avoid NATO expansion, they wouldn't be doing the things that have quite literally prompted countries who previously did not want to join NATO (Sweden, etc) into now pressing to join NATO as a response to Russia's totalitarian aggression. If Russia cared about the nazis in the Wagner group enough to invade, they wouldn't also be perpetuating mass genocide of Ukrainians during their war of aggression. If Russia thought that ethnically Russian people weren't being treated right in another country, they wouldn't be invading said country to move their own citizens into the region and then pretend that means the original region was ethnically Russian.
Russia's bullshit has been so painfully blatant throughout this entire process that I refuse to believe you're actually this dumb. The only things to negotiate is how quickly Russia and the russian citizens it planted in Ukraine after invading need to evacuate from all of Ukraine (including Crimea), and how the Russian officials, including putler, will surrender to the UN for their crimes against humanity.
Orientalism.
This is clearly going no where. I hope you're happy this war will never end.
Not sure what you mean by orientalism but I don't doubt it's lacking in critical thought.
And why would I be happy that a dictator refuses to stop a genocide he created?
You seem to think Russians are conquest hungry orcs that lack rational thought and hunger only for blood - it's a very common racist trope used to smear Asian people. The reality is complicated and you're simplifying it to justify endless war.
And you must be happy, because you refuse to do anything to actually end the war. Ukraine is only being given aid to keep Russia busy, there is no expectation they can ever win. The goal is to entangle Russia in a quagmire and fight to the last Ukrainian. You love it.
The only person reducing a people down to their leaders is you; I'm condemning putler and the individuals in power of Russia for creating this war. It's a very common tactic to try and equate calling out the individuals in charge of a country with all the people of the country, as a way to hide behind the fact that you have no legitimate argument to make. Especially when the country in question is in practice a dictatorship. You're gonna have to try a little harder than this to not get caught with your pants down, buddy.
"Let us take over your country and murder your people or we'll try to take over your country and murder your people. And if you resist or support people fighting us from murdering and taking over, then you're the real evil person here." Good take bro, stable genius stuff right here
My legitimate arguments are irrelevant. We live in two different realities because this is a choose your own adventure story; you think Putin is an Asiatic orc that craves only power and blood, I think he is being backed into a corner and was provoked by Eastern expansion of NATO and the Euromaidan coup and the collapse of an allied government and the quagmire in Syria over the Western attempt to oust Assad.
To you, he is a stupid orc that is too bloodthirsty to know what's good for him and is destined to lose to Western-backed Ukraine. He also, simultaneously, is the god-emperor of all of Russia and Russians are helpless animals being lead to slaughter by their demon god Putler. So you think endless war will end in the West's favor and not Russia, because he's too stupid and subhuman to possibly win.
Ukraine will be transformed from a breadbasked to a wasteland of land mines and cluster bombs, because you refuse to consider negotiated peace because you actually think Putin is too vile and putrid and monstrous to be negotiated with. Orientalism.
Your continued attempts to mischaracterise what I say bore me
lol so how do you think the rest of the world feels when Westoids mischaractarise Russia's goals? "Putin, the absolute ruler of Russia, is a stupid and bloodthirsty orc that wants to kill all Ukrainians and steal their land!"
You're a clown.
You need to try harder than this
Imagine trying hard at internet arguments.
None of this shit matters honey. We're all just NPCs in the posting RPG.
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