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[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is only a problem because lemmy.world has become one of the centralized hubs for Lemmy, which means that jettisoning them has a larger impact. The failing of lemmy.world is a reminder that we should be intentionally spreading out to smaller instances, that way a bad admin/instance can be cut off without losing much value. Additionally, by lemmy.world/lemmy.ml/etc having such a grip on the core of Lemmy, they are emboldened to make bad changes without fearing consequences.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Totally. I would love to stand up an instance but it’s a little above my tech knowledge and, frankly, I don’t want to have to think about the legal aspects of what happens on it.

If I ever somehow did it, I would probably not allow photos/videos.

[–] nybble41@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The more users spread out into smaller, more easily censored instances, the more the remaining fragmented bits of the Lemmy ecosystem still talking to each other will turn into echo chambers full of groupthink. This low threshold for defederation is the Fediverse's greatest weakness. Sure, it's possible to work around it—but how many separate Lemmy accounts are users expected to create? Even if you have accounts on every instance of note you'd need to manually cross-post messages to each balkanized server and their comment sections wouldn't be shared—exactly the sort of thing federation was meant to avoid.

Email, another federated system, has this same weakness. It's why it's increasingly difficult to run your own (outgoing) email server which other systems will accept messages from without going through a well-known third party like Google. Especially when trying to push content to a large audience (e.g. mailing lists), which happens to be Lemmy's core function.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago

Bluesky is using content addressing to deal with this, although currently it is only built around feeds and not forums. Your profile is truly portable and posts can optionally be retrieved from "mirrors" (one of the CDN-like servers called BGS) so you don't need to rely on your current hosting server (the account hosts called PDS) to federate with everybody.