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this statistic does not account for Tesla loyalists, as three-quarters of Tesla owners indicated that they would continue with EVs.

Some people just like Elon Musk

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[–] Siddhartha-Aurelius@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plug in hybrids are the best of both worlds. Any of the Toyota primes would be the ideal vehicle for most people. Too bad it’s near impossible to get one even if you have the money.

[–] Junkers_Klunker@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plugins are the worst of both worlds unless you pull in and charge every 50 km to not let the battery drain completely, because if that happens you just end up with an insanely heavy ICE car thats even worse on fuel than an ICE car without all the hybrid shit.

[–] Siddhartha-Aurelius@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have been driving one for years. I only put gas in it on road trips. No need for extra charging time just go. For daily activities I never need to use gas. You’re spreading from speculation, I’m speaking from experience.

Admittedly, they are heavier. You got that bit right. I still got 40mpg on road trips.

[–] Junkers_Klunker@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I drove a plugin for 2 years daily, it only did 12-13kml without battery and 30km on a charge. Granted it was a Mitsubishi Outlander phev which isnt exactly the greatest car.

[–] Siddhartha-Aurelius@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you took your experience with an admittedly bad car and generalized all other cars based on it?

If I buy a Kia I shouldn’t expect it to drive like a Bentley just because they both have an IC engine.

[–] Junkers_Klunker@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Now youre putting words in my mouth, the Mitsubishi wasnt a bad car, just wasnt great. The problem with plugins is that when operating as an ev its an heavy low performance low range ev and when its operating as an ICE car its a heavy low performance gas guzzling ICE car. sure there are a perfect spot where it makes sense, but it is damn near impossible to balance at that spot. If you want an ev for city driving then buy that and spend a little more time charging when going a long way from home. Or buy a more expensive ev that can go further on a charge and charge quicker. The rangeproblem on evs is near not existing where i live. A better solution if range is a concern would be an ev with a rangeextender like the bmw i3 where you are using the ICE only to charge the battery when necessary and therefore can be much smaller and lighter.