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Leftists Embracing Imperialist Narratives Laid The Groundwork For This Wave Of Censorship
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Who gives a shit about Russia's grievances? You don't get to invade a sovereign nation and murder its people because you dont like the way they do things in their own country. (Or at least your shouldn't, if we lived a sane world). It wasn't right when US did it in Iraq, it wasn't right when Russia did it in Ukraine, and it's certainly not right for Israel to massacre and invade Palestinian land.
If you don't give a shit about your enemy's grievances then you can't expect them to negotiate. That's how it works.
I don't expect negotiations with Russia. They have no legitimate legs to stand on. The only acceptable solution should be full withdrawal of all forces from all Ukranian regions and severe international sanctions to cripple their economy even further. You don't get to break into someone else's house and then demand they negotiate with you before you leave or demand they give you one of their rooms for keeps because you don't like who they hang out with.
Exactly
The person my neighbor hangs out with is a known serial killer that is openly hostile to me and keeps trying to set up cameras inside my house, yeah, I might try to do something about that lol
I don't see why UN monitored referendums in the disputed regions is so unacceptable. If people want to leave or want to stay, let them decide.
The regions are only "disputed" because Russia invaded another sovereign nation under false pretenses 9 years ago, brought in their people, set up sham elections, and is now claiming there's a legitimate, native contingent that wants to break away.
Also, while I won't dispute the serial killer analogy (I get it, USA is a shit hegemon), it's again a bit disingenuous because you yourself have enjoyed chopping up boddies from time to time (to keep the analogy going) so the pearl clutching is not as strong of an argument as you may think. Likewise with the cameras: they're setting up cameras in the neighbors yard, not yours (because again, the neighbors house is NOT YOURS).
Was it under false pretenses? As far as I'm aware, the Russian speaking minority really didn't support the regime change and there really does seem to be a Nazi problem and the Euromaidan coup really was antirussian (not Russophobic, necessarily, but certainly opposed to Russia) and it really was endorsed by the West. Those are real things that can be negotiated over, Russia isn't just bloodthirsty orcs.
Also, even if I am chopping bodies myself it's still reasonable for me to not want a bigger and meaner body chopper to be friends with the neighbors or to put missile silos in their yard. That's not pearl clutching, that's just rational national interest.