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Like the title states looking for E2EE apps (Android and iOS) without going into much details or needs to be robust enough and easy to use for anyone and stable for operations that are susceptible to constant electronic warfare. I did some research and thought about replacing Signal with Molly and wondering if it will still work if Signal leaves the EU, but am also worried about its updates to patch vulnerabilities in a timely manner. I appreciate the help I am a “Jack of all trades and master of none” when it comes to these types of programs, but am also the go to currently in my unit since I am somewhat knowledgeable about exploits and attacks that can compromise systems would be great if there was an desktop as well (like Signal) and would also be nice if it was FOSS and auditable ( I know that’s kind of redundant ) I know it’s a tall order to ask but figured I would try. I really appreciate the help so much and hope I did things by the rules here and don’t get flamed if this has already been covered ( I searched but my skills with searching the fediverse is low

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[–] LudwigvanBeethoven@sh.itjust.works 73 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Pretty sure signal won't be forced to do anything:

Encryption plays an essential role in securing communications. The international human rights law test of legality, necessity and proportionality should be applied to any measures that would affect encryption. Both the UN Commissioner for Human Rights[1]and the European Data Protection Supervisor[2]have concluded that the EU’s proposal for a regulation on child sexual abuse material fails this test[3].

this is from May this year, when Spain proposed this. How in the everliving fuck the EU can get away with violating human rights?

So yeah I'll eat my hat unsalted if this actually will break encryption

[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If they actually ban E2EE, I’d like to see all banks, for a start, and most web sites, downgrade https to http. See how long the ban will last then.

“I was just following the law!”

[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago

It’s ok the banks have a “too essential to be punished” card

I give it a month before either the ECJ steps in or they quietly change the law/interpretation (Article 13/17 says hi)

[–] waitmarks@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

you should eat it hashed and salted in protest.

[–] hackris@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Best comment in this thread

[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So encryption was always a recipe for potatoes

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 0 points 1 year ago

Hashes are not encryption

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, they don't need to break encryption, since the scanning of messages is supposed to happen client-side.

[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Technically not touching your valuable encryption would still be an excuse they'd make, wouldn't it

Even though it functionally does break encryption