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[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think I missed the point though.

I'm ststating that Russians don't seem to be directly afected aside from having their favorite EU vacation destinations accessible via France or Turkey instead directly from Moscow. It means that so called collective punishment was either ineffective or so mild, that it had almost no effect on dayly lives of citizens.

You compare this with bombing city, being cut out of water, food, medicine and energy.

If anything, Russians collectively punished Ukrainians by shelling,detroying their energy and tradic infrastructure to make winter as bad as possible for UA.