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[–] BunkerBusterKeaton@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes, and fwiw this is still very much ONGOING for native americans today

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely. And the Native Americans stopped killing the settlers.

[–] BunkerBusterKeaton@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With Israel and Palestine it is hard to say one side of the other is totally on the wrong and the other is totally in the right because they are killing each other. With native Americans, it is possible to say Native Americans are 100% in the right.

[–] BunkerBusterKeaton@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what makes you say the palestine struggle is any different than that of natives or colonized people anywhere in the world (be it Haiti, North Africa, South Africa).

they are all a colonized people experiencing the same struggle of oppression, with no ability to move freely or exercise any sovereignty.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I was specifically talking about North American natives who haven't had any battles against their occupiers in more than a century. I would argue that continued fighting would have led to their extermination and by ceasing killing they were able to claw back some of their sovereignty and rights.

I understand that in an asymmetric war, the underdogs may need to act immorally to ensure their own survival. At the same time, I find it hard to stomach the intentional targeting of noncombatants.